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Old 10-08-2018, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Surfside Beach, SC
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She probably stole the Oxys because she had an addiction, narcotics are nearly impossible to obtain from a doctor these days, since they demonized them and cracked down on them so hard years ago. Addiction makes people do things they would not normally do as non-addicts, thats not really a crime imo, as much as a result of overly aggressive drug laws.
Are you saying that you think it's okay for someone to steal narcotics from another person because of overly aggressive drug laws?
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Old 10-08-2018, 02:40 PM
 
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She probably stole the Oxys because she had an addiction, narcotics are nearly impossible to obtain from a doctor these days, since they demonized them and cracked down on them so hard years ago. Addiction makes people do things they would not normally do as non-addicts, thats not really a crime imo, as much as a result of overly aggressive drug laws.
It's a crime to steal narcotics from your sick patients who need them for severe pain. Someone was doing that at a hospital in my area and they got a long prison term. That may have cured their addiction.

Better to get your smack off the streets than take meds from an old sick person. It's not like they are not going to get caught eventually and they may face more than rehab. Try detoxing in jail.
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Old 10-08-2018, 10:18 PM
 
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Are you saying that you think it's okay for someone to steal narcotics from another person because of overly aggressive drug laws?
No, just saying this is one the negative things that happen when they regulated pain pills so aggressively. Theres been a few similar cases around here, others have broken into older peoples homes mainly looking for narcotic painkillers, pharmacies being held up at gun point is another crime on the rise too in our area
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Old 10-08-2018, 10:25 PM
 
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It's a crime to steal narcotics from your sick patients who need them for severe pain. Someone was doing that at a hospital in my area and they got a long prison term. That may have cured their addiction.

Better to get your smack off the streets than take meds from an old sick person. It's not like they are not going to get caught eventually and they may face more than rehab. Try detoxing in jail.
Well, to be honest, it was far safer for everyone, when addicts were getting narcotics from doctors or hospitals...it may sound crazy to say, but if you look at overdose and opiate related deaths, they actually went up after they cracked down on these pills...that was mainly because pill addicts had no other choice but to switch to heroin (heroin could have anything under the kitchen sink laced in to add weight, the addict has no idea what they are taking), thats what caused all those deaths awhile back, when that batch had elephant tranquilizer laced in!

At least with pills obtained thru a doctor/ pharmacy, they know what they are getting and taking. Strictly regulating narcotics was the absolute worst thing they could do to get this problem under control, it did nothing but create 10s of 1000s of new heroin addicts and made the drug cartels a whole lot more money in the process...now addicts have no other source BUT the cartel supplied drugs, if they want to continue to use. Im sure the drug cartels were very grateful to the DEA for helping create these laws.
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Old 10-09-2018, 08:09 AM
 
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Well, to be honest, it was far safer for everyone, when addicts were getting narcotics from doctors or hospitals...it may sound crazy to say, but if you look at overdose and opiate related deaths, they actually went up after they cracked down on these pills...that was mainly because pill addicts had no other choice but to switch to heroin (heroin could have anything under the kitchen sink laced in to add weight, the addict has no idea what they are taking), thats what caused all those deaths awhile back, when that batch had elephant tranquilizer laced in!

At least with pills obtained thru a doctor/ pharmacy, they know what they are getting and taking. Strictly regulating narcotics was the absolute worst thing they could do to get this problem under control, it did nothing but create 10s of 1000s of new heroin addicts and made the drug cartels a whole lot more money in the process...now addicts have no other source BUT the cartel supplied drugs, if they want to continue to use. Im sure the drug cartels were very grateful to the DEA for helping create these laws.
OR they could go to rehab. There is no way we should be feeding these addictions. Pill mill doctors were simply drug dealing themselves, giving out opiates like candy, often to distributers who spread it around the country. Those doctors were the cause of the opiate epidemic. If enough people get tainted heroin eventually this will die down. There was a big heroin problem in the 70s too and it died down until oxy doc pushers revived the appeal of opiates.

Anyhow this topic is workers being paid for a job and violating someone's home. I don't care what the excuse is, I would expect them to be prosecuted for a crime.
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Old 10-09-2018, 08:45 AM
 
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This story is so confusing. The cleaning service owner initially apologized via email to the client, saying she was sorry but the cleaner was going through a divorce and had just found out her teenage daughter was pregnant? And then subsequently now is claiming that her company had nothing to do with this debacle and that the cleaner who went to the client's house was a rogue ex-employee who stole the clients' email addresses?

Very convoluted.
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Old 10-09-2018, 02:11 PM
 
Location: southern kansas
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This story is so confusing. The cleaning service owner initially apologized via email to the client, saying she was sorry but the cleaner was going through a divorce and had just found out her teenage daughter was pregnant? And then subsequently now is claiming that her company had nothing to do with this debacle and that the cleaner who went to the client's house was a rogue ex-employee who stole the clients' email addresses?

Very convoluted.

Only the damage control attempts. The situation is actually simple. The customer paid for services she didn't get, and incurred damages in the process. Apology is fine, but where is the refund?
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