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Since they are not capable of self regulating, seems the gov will need to step in.
At that, this has become more of a bragging, bucket list, thing for people, crowding the serious, genuinely interested in climbers.
Agreed.
The govt. needs to set a specific no. of people that can attempt a summit on any given day. It's dangerous enough without overcrowding that leads to too much time in the death zone.
Climbers should also take responsibility and insure they are well trained in the logistics of climbing and don't get overwhelmed with determination under the extreme circumstances of a summit.
The govt. needs to set a specific no. of people that can attempt a summit on any given day. It's dangerous enough without overcrowding that leads to too much time in the death zone.
Climbers should also take responsibility and insure they are well trained in the logistics of climbing and don't get overwhelmed with determination under the extreme circumstances of a summit.
I think a few years ago, the Sherpas attempted a strike. I think that’s really going to be the only way. Without the Sherpas, most of these people aren’t capable of making it up on their own since the Sherpas do all the work. It is just too risky for them to keep going up and down with so many people, particularly since the skill level of the people who hire them seems to be going down.
I would hope that the majority are not doing it for bragging rights.
What other reason? I mean, there's nothing up there. It's not like they are climbing to help some endangered species. The only reason to go is because you can. They don't gain anything from going.
And don't give me any spiritual bs. You don't have to climb the tallest mountain on the planet to gain some spiritual awareness. It's strictly an ego climb.
There's 138 people in this picture alone! We're to believe, in this day of Photoshop tech fakery that this is Everest and that it's final assault looks like the line waiting to get into the Super Bowl?
There's 138 people in this picture alone! We're to believe, in this day of Photoshop tech fakery that this is Everest and that it's final assault looks like the line waiting to get into the Super Bowl?
Sorry, I don't.
I think it's possible for humans to obsess to the point of endangering themselves, and of creating situations that stress credulity. But like you, I've been struggling to get my mind around why these people would volunteer to stand in line for hours at an oxygen-challenged altitude in extreme cold, just to go roughly 1/4 mile farther to reach a summit.
I think part of it has to do with the fact that, they've already invested so much to get so close to the goal, that they can't bring themselves to not go those final yards, even when common sense and safety concerns would suggest it's not that big a deal ti make it to the bitter end. Or the victorious end, however you want to look at it. They've already pushed their bodies that far, which was a considerable challenge taking days or longer, and spent somewhere between $10,000 and $20,000 to get there, I guess they're not leaving without their prize.
Even if it cost one of them his life, and may cost others, theirs, before they get back down.
Am I the first (didn't read the whole thread) or only one who finds this difficult to believe?.
Apparently so. No doubt in my mind that it's legitimate.
If you read the story, local sherpa guides have said that this year's traffic jam was the worst ever, with return climbers waiting hours for it to pass and some dying as a result.
Am I the first (didn't read the whole thread) or only one who finds this difficult to believe?
There's 138 people in this picture alone! We're to believe, in this day of Photoshop tech fakery that this is Everest and that it's final assault looks like the line waiting to get into the Super Bowl?
Sorry, I don't.
Nope, I believe it. Did you ever watch the show Everest that was on TLC several years ago? The number of people, including climb guides and other support people was amazing. I remember those who got to the top could only spend about ten minutes up there because they had to get back down, too. So that pic isn't just people going up but also coming down. Considering how many permits they have issued and the window of clear days to ascend, totally believable.
Once in the death zone you get slow and stupid. I remember one episode where there was a long line of people waiting to climb this ladder. There had to be 50 people in line, and it was the middle of the night.
Crazy.
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