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Old 10-29-2019, 09:53 AM
 
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Grandpa killed her. So what if she liked to hit windows? He should have watched her more diligently.
Parents will get a settlement and laugh all the way to the bank.

 
Old 10-29-2019, 10:00 AM
 
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Who's saying "corrupt"?

Did you quote the wrong post?
Claiming the police charged the grandfather in retaliation to the family's lawsuit against RC sure sounds corrupt to me...
 
Old 10-29-2019, 10:05 AM
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Claiming the police charged the grandfather in retaliation to the family's lawsuit against RC sure sounds corrupt to me...
Police aren't the ones who decide if charges will be filed, but let's skip past that.

Prosecutors often take into account whether a person is remorseful, whether their life is seemingly ruined already. The prosecution would certainly take into account whether the family would actually stand to profit monetarily from this tragedy, and wouldn't be corrupt in saying, "this little girl's life was worth something, and through his unbelievable carelessness, she's gone. We're going to do what we can to not allow them to profit from this loss".

That's not corruption. That's just deciding to prosecute based on the attitude of the family and the defendant.
 
Old 10-29-2019, 10:24 AM
 
Location: Southwest Washington State
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What is the point of putting a grieving grandparent in jail? Especially when it will cause the entire family to suffer all over again. Is he a danger to society? No. Was it deliberate? No. I think this idea that someone must be punished for every accident is foolish and serves no purpose. Especially when the family doesn't want it and says it will only "pour salt on their wounds". PR prosecutors probably doing it for Royal Caribbean. RC has thus far still not allowed the family to see the video.
Unless someone knows something we don’t, I don’t understand this charge. This was a terrible accident. I feel the cruise line owes expenses to family, but I don’t see any criminal negligence here. If the parent had set the baby down, would they have charged the parent?

Grandpa’s life has been shortened by this tragedy, which is probably eating him up with guilt and grief. Parents are devastated. But trying to blame Cruise line does not bring baby back. Neither does charging grandpa.

All accidents cab be prevented. But they still happen.
 
Old 10-29-2019, 10:25 AM
 
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No. The family is claiming it was a negligence by another party. And preparing to sue. It makes complete sense to me that knowledge of the truth should be made public. Since the family claimed no responsibility, they rather brought this on themselves.
So you are trying to conflate the civil lawsuit with criminal charges. Any government entity that charges someone criminally based on a civil lawsuit is corrupt. Again it is the “serves them right“ justification in your mind. It’s not how our criminal justice system works, nor should it. Do you believe that if they weren’t suing Royal Caribbean the grandfather would not be being charged?
 
Old 10-29-2019, 10:26 AM
 
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So a grandfather kills his granddaughter, even saying that the events outlined in the media are true. But the police are corrupt for charging this man for the little girls death?

I really do not understand this line of thinking.
Many people are saying that the charges are justified because the family is suing. But yes, I do believe somethings are simply tragic accidents and it doesn’t serve any purpose to put someone in jail for them. The family already lost one family member, now they are faced with the prospect of losing yet another, as well as the child’s grandmother becoming destitute in the process. So if charging the grandfather does not provide justice to the family but in fact visits greater harm on them, and he’s not a danger to anyone, then what is the point?
 
Old 10-29-2019, 10:28 AM
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Unless someone knows something we don’t, I don’t understand this charge. This was a terrible accident. I feel the cruise line owes expenses to family, but I don’t see any criminal negligence here. If the parent had set the baby down, would they have charged the parent?

Grandpa’s life has been shortened by this tragedy, which is probably eating him up with guilt and grief. Parents are devastated. But trying to blame Cruise line does not bring baby back. Neither does charging grandpa.

All accidents cab be prevented. But they still happen.
I wonder if he will live long enough to see this case work its way through the criminal and civil courts.

I agree, heartbreak like this often kills people, literally.
 
Old 10-29-2019, 10:30 AM
 
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Grandpa killed her. So what if she liked to hit windows? He should have watched her more diligently.
Parents will get a settlement and laugh all the way to the bank.
What a cold and ridiculous statement last sentence is. Family will never laugh again.
 
Old 10-29-2019, 10:31 AM
 
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Claiming the police charged the grandfather in retaliation to the family's lawsuit against RC sure sounds corrupt to me...
I simply wondered aloud about it, I didn’t “claim” anything.
 
Old 10-29-2019, 10:33 AM
 
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Unless someone knows something we don’t, I don’t understand this charge.
I'm not sure what there is to understand. The grandfather's negligence killed his granddaughter, so he is being charged with negligent homicide.
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