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Old 08-22-2019, 08:08 AM
 
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I am a liberal and I would never want to hurt someone who is successful. This guy was a horrible, evil and vile person. I cannot imagine how someone could ever do something like this to anyone, let alone an elderly woman. It has nothing to do with politics, it has to do with a very sick mind.
Exactly. This is why I posted here instead of POC. It is a problem we are facing more frequently as companies are turning to (usually) unvetted subcontractors which is giving people like this killer access to people’s homes. When companies use in house delivery and service people, they tend to be more thoroughly trained, vetted and held to higher standards which does give us as consumers more peace of mind. Look at how many Uber drivers have raped their passengers.
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Old 08-22-2019, 08:25 AM
 
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You think we were united under Obama?
No his election polarized the nation there were many people who hated that he was elected. Big difference is Obama didn’t egg it on and encourage the divide. In fact it was the other side that began Obama’s term vowing to block everything he tried to do, which greatly increased the divide. This pres finds the divide to work in his favor politically and appears to do all he can to deepen it.

Not sure what it has to do with the topic though.
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Old 08-22-2019, 08:27 AM
 
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Exactly. This is why I posted here instead of POC. It is a problem we are facing more frequently as companies are turning to (usually) unvetted subcontractors which is giving people like this killer access to people’s homes. When companies use in house delivery and service people, they tend to be more thoroughly trained, vetted and held to higher standards which does give us as consumers more peace of mind. Look at how many Uber drivers have raped their passengers.
And the story also on this forum about a door Dash driver who robbed and beat a customer.
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Old 08-22-2019, 08:33 AM
 
Location: Redwood City, CA
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Yeah, who knew violent people also have to work for a living?
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Old 08-22-2019, 09:09 AM
 
Location: Mid-Atlantic
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He doesn't really have any of the other facial features though.

He could also just be a piece of garbage without any reasoning behind it.
He reminds me of this guy:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/a...-syndrome.html
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Old 08-22-2019, 09:38 AM
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I ordered a refrigerator from Home Depot a few months ago. Their (subcontracted) delivery people were supposed to arrive between 10-12, didn't show up, I called HD mid-afternoon, they said they "had no contact with the delivery company," at 5 pm I called again to postpone the delivery because it was now pitch-black outside and my driveway was snowy and icy, they said they "had no contact with the delivery company." I hung up and the delivery company was a no-show. I subsequently cancelled the order, the delivery company showed up a few days later anyway, I took one look at them and would never, ever let them in the house. Completely unvetted, no communication with the seller, their dispatch apparently has no idea where they were or what they were supposed to be doing, the lead guy sounded like he was on drugs and the other guy was staggering around my now-sanded driveway.



I won't buy anything requiring delivery any more unless the seller has their own delivery people, who are usually residents of the area. The third-party delivery companies use employees from out-of-state. No wonder they're not vetted. I bet some of them are hired completely sight-unseen by the employer.


I feel for this woman's family. It won't bring her back, but I hope they sue the **** out of Best Buy.
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Old 08-22-2019, 10:11 AM
 
Location: United States
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I don't know how old her picture is, but she looked da..good if it was recent. If he was on drugs, as disgusting as it sounds, he may have hit on her. She, in turn, as any woman would do, but especially at her age, may have laughed at him. I know, at 65, I sure would have.
High or sober I don't know any 21 year olds that go around hitting on women old enough to be their grandmother. Not likely.

My first assumption was that he was trying to rob her or maybe this woman said or did something to provoke him. Coke and weed may not make a murderer out of your average user, but with someone on the fringes...

Society is going to learn to make mental health a priority or these Best Buy/Walmart tragedies are going to continue to happen.
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Old 08-22-2019, 10:16 AM
 
Location: Riding a rock floating through space
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I keep someone nearby at all times.

Their names are Smith and Wesson.

Wouldn't do any good if you got smacked in the head from behind with a hammer.
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Old 08-22-2019, 11:04 AM
 
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I ordered a refrigerator from Home Depot a few months ago. Their (subcontracted) delivery people were supposed to arrive between 10-12, didn't show up, I called HD mid-afternoon, they said they "had no contact with the delivery company," at 5 pm I called again to postpone the delivery because it was now pitch-black outside and my driveway was snowy and icy, they said they "had no contact with the delivery company." I hung up and the delivery company was a no-show. I subsequently cancelled the order, the delivery company showed up a few days later anyway, I took one look at them and would never, ever let them in the house. Completely unvetted, no communication with the seller, their dispatch apparently has no idea where they were or what they were supposed to be doing, the lead guy sounded like he was on drugs and the other guy was staggering around my now-sanded driveway.



I won't buy anything requiring delivery any more unless the seller has their own delivery people, who are usually residents of the area. The third-party delivery companies use employees from out-of-state. No wonder they're not vetted. I bet some of them are hired completely sight-unseen by the employer.


I feel for this woman's family. It won't bring her back, but I hope they sue the **** out of Best Buy.
This is exactly what happen with my mother and her Walmart grocery delivery. They left some of her stuff on the delivery truck, and when I called Walmart they tried to tell me they didn’t have contact with the delivery company and that I would have to call them. I was having none of that, and I have no problem getting medieval with poor customer service. I told them no I paid Walmart, and it is not my responsibility to contact their subcontractors. It took a few minutes of arguing to get a manager on the phone, and then I had to argue with the manager. They actually had the nerve to suggest that if I wanted to come to the store, I could pick up the missing items. Hello, I paid to have her groceries delivered because I did not want to go to the store. In the end, they had her stuff re-delivered but I think they just re-ordered it for her vs calling the delivery subcontractor.

Unfortunately, I don’t have the choice to just not use a grocery store that delivers because they use subcontractors. Walmart and ShopRite are the only places that deliver to where my mom is and if they both use subcontractors there’s no other option.I don’t know if ShopRite uses subcontractors yet or not, but their delivery is twice as much as Walmart so I try to use Walmart.

I have a feeling that everyone is going to be using them shortly and we won’t have any options at all. They are basically sending unvetted strangers to our homes. Even when they aren’t criminals, I think they do a much poorer job overall then store delivery people do.
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Old 08-22-2019, 11:50 AM
 
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No his election polarized the nation there were many people who hated that he was elected. Big difference is Obama didn’t egg it on and encourage the divide. In fact it was the other side that began Obama’s term vowing to block everything he tried to do, which greatly increased the divide. This pres finds the divide to work in his favor politically and appears to do all he can to deepen it.

Not sure what it has to do with the topic though.
That's your opinion, not fact.


Obama was a racially polarizing figure from the git-go just from the fact that he associated with the hate-filled racist Reverend Wright. He got worse from there ...
I guess we all live in our own reality.
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