Teen faces life imprisonment for killing man who was trafficking her
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I'd really rather not, but just Google: "Chrystul Kizer GoFundMe". It's easy to find.
I didn't notice the 'room and board' before. Is that mis-wording or is that for the Mom? IDK how I feel about that.
It IS expensive. It IS nice to have books and such. As a perceived victim people apparently want to make hr more comfortable in jail. Packages are expensive because you can't buy just anything and put it in a shipping box. Everything has to go trough approved vendors.
It's quite a racket with the cost of phone calls but visits costs money too?
She should get a reward, not criminal charges. Our system really gets out of whack sometimes. Pimps are nothing but human slugs that deserve no mercy whatsoever.
Wrong. She needs jail time to figure everything out with some therapy. You can't just murder people, you should call the police and let them do the dirty work. We can't have people just running around killing others. The law is the law.
We need someone who has her best interests at heart, to help her figure out how to get her life back. Instead of a prosecutor who wants another conviction to pave his road to the State House.
The objectives of prison are Punishment, Correction, Deterrence and Separation from society. Which of those will be met favorably by throwing this girl into Taycheedah? (In Florida, there is a fifth one -- removing "the wrong kind of people" from the voters rolls.)
The girl was no choir girl, but unfortunately, that isn't surprising given her background. Most of us are fortunate enough not to be in that world of bleak poverty, where young boys and girls have little hope for the future. It's easy for people with a solid background to say "why didn't that girl get a job instead of prostituting herself on backpage", because we are at least working class and don't live a subsistence/survival lifestyle. These young women quickly learn that their main ticket for survival is selling themselves. In the Cyntoia Brown case and this one, both women were young, Black, and poor and came from abusive environments. They compound things further by getting involved with abusive men to escape their own abusive households. Moreover, these girls view getting out of wrenching poverty as a futile struggle - case in point, this girl's mom. While she did work, it was low wage work, and definitely not enough to support her four children. Working long hours meant that she couldn't devote any time towards her children, so it comes as no surprise that they turned out the way that they did. Stories like this help me to appreciate the opportunities that I've been given and the choices I've made. I was fortunate never to be born in poverty, despite my mother also being a single mom. Likewise, my children are very fortunate too. They are able to be children and not have to want for much. They're allowed to pursue their dreams. One thing I liked about the Washington Post article is that they humanized Ms. Kizer. She did have aspirations at one time, but the environment she lived in was too much. Her mother had little money to encourage whatever pursuits that she had. You hear that all too often and it's shockingly sad. This isn't excusing the actions of people from such environments, but it does provide insight and clarity. We just can't truly relate to that level of despair. I remember watching The Wire years ago and it was tough to watch. Marginalized people, where kids grow up far too early into either hardened criminals, or prostitutes, or drug addicts, and having hordes of kids along the way.
On the flip side, this man was clearly a pervert, a vile human being, a predator with a penchant for young girls (including 12 year olds), specifically young, inner city girls. He specifically targeted poor young girls from the ghetto that he could groom, flatter, and degrade. With his ill-gotten money, he was able to live in a suburban home and indulge his sick desires. Sure, the girl could have decided to not allow herself to be pimped out. But he was an adult who was clearly in a position of control. Offering gobs of money and attention to poor, young girls in exchange for a wide variety of sex acts, can clearly be considered control. To me, that's no different than the sex tourists preying on child prostitutes in Southeast Asia - offering money and gifts to impoverished children in exchange for sexual favors. The thought of him touching and filming a 12 year old makes me want to vomit. It's also worth noting that two separate girls (including Ms. Kizer) mentioned that he had threatened to kill them. He deserved to be removed from this Earth as far as I'm concerned and it's sickening that this creep was allowed to operate for as long as he had. Ms. Kizer did the world a favor.
This girl should maybe get at most five years since the law is the law. But let's be honest, if this was a girl from the suburbs, this wouldn't be a discussion. Also, girls who are more well off probably wouldn't be such easy targets for the likes of Mr. Valor.
I grew up poor in the projects and I’m white. I had zero direction, and had a tough childhood. So I joined the military. Most prostitutes are white in America and hail from all types of economic backgrounds. This is just politically correct liberal nonsense. She could have done anything with her life that she wanted to. She chose what she chose. Granted the man was a bad apple, and should be punished, But women in these situations can be quite manipulative, and have a masters degree in hustling and conning men. Especially when they know someone has money.
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Wrong. She needs jail time to figure everything out with some therapy. You can't just murder people, you should call the police and let them do the dirty work. We can't have people just running around killing others. The law is the law.
Do you realize that the police were called 3 months ago, and nothing was done?
Do you realize that the police were called 3 months ago, and nothing was done?
She didn't call the police, and apparently didn't even know there was an investigation going on. Which is not really surprising, considering all her own criminal activity.
I grew up poor in the projects and I’m white. I had zero direction, and had a tough childhood. So I joined the military. Most prostitutes are white in America and hail from all types of economic backgrounds. This is just politically correct liberal nonsense. She could have done anything with her life that she wanted to. She chose what she chose. Granted the man was a bad apple, and should be punished, But women in these situations can be quite manipulative, and have a masters degree in hustling and conning men. Especially when they know someone has money.
I honestly give two beeps that you found my post “pc liberal nonsense”. Such a tiresome term for a legitimate discussion. I never said that she had no choice. Additionally, “conning men” had zero to do with this and I see no reason to bring that crap into things. If there was a con it was due to his desire for young poor girls. He was a frikken pervert who liked pubescent girls and filming them. Marinate on that for awhile, fella. “Bad apple” Fails to recognize the depravity of that individual. He earned his money selling smut. She did the world a favor offing him.
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