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Too early to surmise that “the control was regained”
Don’t want to go into too technical details - but the data you referring to was coming from the flight radar.
When the plane was going nose down at the rate it was - with some video capture to confirm it - that flight radar data is unreliable to make a certain conclusion of “control was regained”
On that video - stabilizer is not visible…
In addition, I could be wrong, but the Chinese still have a much larger crew on their planes - at least 4 pilots + an engineer unlike our flight crews of 2 pilots - easier to lock out or overcome in nefarious situations.
Agree with you - we shall see.
The Chinese are very prudent in their investigation - they are the ones who grounded Boing Max planes first - we wouldn’t do it in the US.
Could be anything - including a clear air turbulence encounter - which could tear off the vertical stabilizer- it happened to airplanes before with no chance of recovery.
Even if the whole vertical stabilizer gets torn off it is my impression that a 747 would at least glide for some time, especially since they had plenty of altitude. The failure must have been pretty serious for an aircraft to just nosedive like that from essentially a cruising altitude.
It could be a combination of serious mechanical failure plus pilot error, as they may have been driving the plane into the ground themselves by accident, perhaps disoriented, if at some point the plane flipped upside down or started spiraling.
Too early to surmise that “the control was regained”
Don’t want to go into too technical details - but the data you referring to was coming from the flight radar.
When the plane was going nose down at the rate it was - with some video capture to confirm it - that flight radar data is unreliable to make a certain conclusion of “control was regained”
On that video - stabilizer is not visible…
In addition, I could be wrong, but the Chinese still have a much larger crew on their planes - at least 4 pilots + an engineer unlike our flight crews of 2 pilots - easier to lock out or overcome in nefarious situations.
Agree with you - we shall see.
The Chinese are very prudent in their investigation - they are the ones who grounded Boing Max planes first - we wouldn’t do it in the US.
Could be anything - including a clear air turbulence encounter - which could tear off the vertical stabilizer- it happened to airplanes before with no chance of recovery.
Fair. We are working on prelim data and publically available data at present. I think that data is from one of the flightdata websites, so.. There are no guarantees to the accuracy.
Depends... If it's gaining speed/accelerating while going down, there are ABSOLUTELY G-forces at play that will knock anyone out.
Except a partial regain of control when they were already most of the way down might suggest that wasn't the case (unfortunately)... at least for one person in the cockpit (unless they passed out, regained consciousness briefly and tried to recover from the dive, and either weren't able to or passed out again)?
Straight down is actually 0 g. Like floating on air . . . sort of.
Not at all correct - the data analysis indicates that it was travelling somewhere over 640 MPH downwards - not necessarily enough to knock someone out but not at all like floating.
Not at all correct - the data analysis indicates that it was travelling somewhere over 640 MPH downwards - not necessarily enough to knock someone out but not at all like floating.
Negative G's is the term.
Whichever direction it's pushing from.. Don't feel good.
The only difference is whether you're smooshed to the floor or the ceiling.
A plane has to be forced to go straight down. The lift from the wings will naturally try to level the plane until it stalls and flutters down.
Straight down has to be a pilot forcing the stick forward. An unlikely scenario would be the elevators being stuck in the exact needed angle to maintain a straight down even with the varying speed and lift over the wings.
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