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Old 03-31-2022, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Flawduh
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The article also said the ride operators don't work for Icon Park, they work for the owner of the ride. The park owner said to think of the park as a landlord, and the rides are separate entities owned by various companies who rent space there and hire their own people. Maybe that needs to be looked at.
How? ICON is an entertainment complex. Think of it as a mini-district. There is no entry fee, and there are multiple entities on the property. ICON can't just suddenly own every building. There are restaurants, hotels, an aquarium, etc. there. It's not a theme park.


One thing I read that I found absolutely ridiculous, however, was that a crowd formed in front of the ride to "protest," saying they never want it to reopen, and so on and so forth. What will this accomplish exactly? If anything, when it reopens, after additional safety measures are put into place, it will probably be the safest drop tower in the world.
What will taking the ride down accomplish exactly?

Of course, I shouldn't be surprised, considering this brain-dead generation likes to protest for everything just for the sake of it.
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Old 03-31-2022, 05:09 PM
 
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How? ICON is an entertainment complex. Think of it as a mini-district. There is no entry fee, and there are multiple entities on the property. ICON can't just suddenly own every building. There are restaurants, hotels, an aquarium, etc. there. It's not a theme park.


One thing I read that I found absolutely ridiculous, however, was that a crowd formed in front of the ride to "protest," saying they never want it to reopen, and so on and so forth. What will this accomplish exactly? If anything, when it reopens, after additional safety measures are put into place, it will probably be the safest drop tower in the world.
What will taking the ride down accomplish exactly?

Of course, I shouldn't be surprised, considering this brain-dead generation likes to protest for everything just for the sake of it.
I thought it was a theme park.
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Old 03-31-2022, 07:44 PM
 
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So kind of interesting. The attendants were only trained on one day. The ride opened the end of December but the attendants that didn't check his harness were trained on one day just 4 or 5 weeks before the incident. They also were probably only part time workers due to their ages so probably "trained" in just a few hours/first day of work.

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Ride safety expert: Orlando FreeFall operators completed (t)raining in 1 day
https://youtu.be/fUvufYjZ5eo
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Old 03-31-2022, 07:59 PM
 
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Again...it doesn't matter. The lack of training or absence of "checking" didn't cause this accident. A design flaw with allowed the harness/brace to lock and therefore the ride to proceed DESPITE, unbeknowst to everyone, the fact that the rider was not fully protected by the locked harness is what caused it. But now they know!
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Old 03-31-2022, 08:18 PM
 
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Again...it doesn't matter. The lack of training or absence of "checking" didn't cause this accident. A design flaw with allowed the harness/brace to lock and therefore the ride to proceed DESPITE, unbeknowst to everyone, the fact that the rider was not fully protected by the locked harness is what caused it. But now they know!
You can keep saying that but as you can see most of us are going with the fact's. The attendants were poorly trained. It was a human error.
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Old 03-31-2022, 08:28 PM
 
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Yes, the attendants were poorly trained.

BUT THE HARNESS WAS LOCKED.

So it's irrelevant that the attendants were poorly trained.

I realize logic is hard!
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Old 03-31-2022, 08:38 PM
 
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Yes, the attendants were poorly trained.

BUT THE HARNESS WAS LOCKED.

So it's irrelevant that the attendants were poorly trained.

I realize logic is hard!
I agree that they can't pin this on the ride attendant. There does appear to be a design flaw of some sort.
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Old 03-31-2022, 09:16 PM
 
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Yes, the attendants were poorly trained.

BUT THE HARNESS WAS LOCKED.

So it's irrelevant that the attendants were poorly trained.

I realize logic is hard!
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I agree that they can't pin this on the ride attendant. There does appear to be a design flaw of some sort.
Design flaw, maybe. But the attendants should have noticed that the chest piece wasn't sitting properly. We all noticed it by simply looking at the video. Maybe they weren't trained properly. Maybe they didn't care. Maybe they didn't notice, but should have. It was their job to notice. That's why they were being paid.
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Old 03-31-2022, 09:22 PM
 
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Design flaw, maybe. But the attendants should have noticed that the chest piece wasn't sitting properly. We all noticed it by simply looking at the video. Maybe they weren't trained properly. Maybe they didn't care. Maybe they didn't notice, but should have. It was their job to notice. That's why they were being paid.
NO ONE anticipated that the harness not fitting quite right (I'm sure he wasn't the first "big and tall" guy to ever ride this ride), yet LOCKING, would be a problem. Until it was.
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Old 03-31-2022, 10:09 PM
 
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NO ONE anticipated that the harness not fitting quite right (I'm sure he wasn't the first "big and tall" guy to ever ride this ride), yet LOCKING, would be a problem. Until it was.
It SHOULD have been anticipated. If not by the employees than by someone who instructed them. My other thought is that if more mature employees had been hired they might have been quicker to perceive this particular problem.
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