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What a scary way to go. Falling out and nothing can stop you. Petrifying. Imagine all the pain you've been through and dealing with this.
Yup. He must have felt the sudden crushing genital and belly pain while being forced through the opening of that seat. Then hitting the ground too? Horrible! Maybe it happened too fast for his brain and body to sense anything before he died?
I think the problem is that if the ride operators are teenagers... I would feel nervous that I could not trust them to safely evaluate every single person coming onto the ride. This is especially true if they are under pressure to get people on and off the ride quickly because they are under a constant time crunch. Also, people carry weight differently so they might not guess someone's weight correctly every time. And maybe some teens might feel uncomfortable confronting people and saying "you're too heavy to ride this ride" and worry people could react violently.
I agree they need to do that. But also signs need to be posted at every ride stating the height/weight restrictions. And I think when an adult purchases ticket for kids to get into the park, they should have to sign a waiver stating they have read and understand certain rides have height/weight restrictions and then provide a link and list of which rides those are.
I'm replying to anyone who insists this was the young attendant's fault.
Yes, he was wrong not to check every brace on the ride.
But that wouldn't have saved this kid.
Had the one that allowed him to enter the ride been up on some of the weight maximum restrictions that are in the OPERATOR'S MANUAL ... that may have saved the teen. Told him no.
If the operator was new, didn't read manual, then it is the PARK'S due diligence to have signs stating weight of too much or too little. Had he been turned away at other rides that evening due to weight?
Had the one that allowed him to enter the ride been up on some of the weight maximum restrictions that are in the OPERATOR'S MANUAL ... that may have saved the teen. Told him no.
If the operator was new, didn't read manual, then it is the PARK'S due diligence to have signs stating weight of too much or too little. Had he been turned away at other rides that evening due to weight?
Operator first, park second to hold accountable.
Yes, he had been turned away at 2 rides previous to trying this one.
I would point out AGAIN that this ride is designed to not start unless and until all the harnesses (braces) are locked, and there's zero evidence that anyone "overrode" this mechanism, so the harnesses (braces) were locked and yet failed.
Which means...design error...
NO ONE is dumb enough to depend on the judgement of a teenager ride operator.
If you look at the picture below from my reply here, His upper body looks too big to even fit through the harness bottom and where the seats crotch is. Look at the difference in the harness/seat crotch on the kid next to him. The seats crotch is about where his hand is.
When the ride stopped, I can't imagine how his body had momentum to be pushed/sucked through that opening, looks to be 6 to 10 inches. The seat was forward, pressure should have been on his stomach. I guess his hips/butt started sliding forward and down when the brakes went on.
Remember that at the top, the seats pitch forward. I think they stay that way on the down trip.
Yup. He must have felt the sudden crushing genital and belly pain while being forced through the opening of that seat. Then hitting the ground too? Horrible! Maybe it happened too fast for his brain and body to sense anything before he died?
If you watch the video on that reddit link I left, it happened very fast. He may have realized he fell out but it was over pretty fast before he hit the ground.
I agree the pain coming out of the seat had to be bad.
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Originally Posted by kitkatbar
I think the problem is that if the ride operators are teenagers... I would feel nervous that I could not trust them to safely evaluate every single person coming onto the ride. This is especially true if they are under pressure to get people on and off the ride quickly because they are under a constant time crunch. Also, people carry weight differently so they might not guess someone's weight correctly every time. And maybe some teens might feel uncomfortable confronting people and saying "you're too heavy to ride this ride" and worry people could react violently.
I agree they need to do that. But also signs need to be posted at every ride stating the height/weight restrictions. And I think when an adult purchases ticket for kids to get into the park, they should have to sign a waiver stating they have read and understand certain rides have height/weight restrictions and then provide a link and list of which rides those are.
Agree that signs should be posted, the waiver does not matter in a court of law. There was one with the 6 year old drop ride death, but it will not matter in that case either because it was the employees who messed up, not checking her seat belts which were laying across her lap, looking like it was belted.
That ride would not start due to it until the employees had to over ride the safety feature. Still no charges filed against them because they could not prove which employee who's responsibility it was to check.
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Originally Posted by SunnySam16
Had the one that allowed him to enter the ride been up on some of the weight maximum restrictions that are in the OPERATOR'S MANUAL ... that may have saved the teen. Told him no.
If the operator was new, didn't read manual, then it is the PARK'S due diligence to have signs stating weight of too much or too little. Had he been turned away at other rides that evening due to weight?
Operator first, park second to hold accountable.
Employees had been there 4 to 5 weeks at that point. They've let thousands of kids on that ride already so IMO they did have experience by the time he rode it.
I figure at least 30 something people per ride, I stopped a video, there are 18 seats showing for half of the ride, then you have times how many rides per day during their shift? Times that by 4 to 5 weeks, depending on how often they worked it could be a few thousand riders.
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Originally Posted by catsmom21
Remember that at the top, the seats pitch forward. I think they stay that way on the down trip.
I know but the weight should have been on his chest being pitched forward or that's what I remember of riding coasters, etc which I know are not drop rides.
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Originally Posted by vabeachgirlNYC
This is a really good POV taken by a group on the drop tower ride for anyone who has never been on this type of ride. It's worth watching.
Interesting the 2nd video says no weight limit on either the drop or sling shot but there is a height limit, if you do not fit the seat harness properly, you can not ride it. It seems his shoulders and chest/breast area get pushed to the harness when it tilts. I'm not seeing that the ride actually pushes his body down into the seat when it drops. The tilt is about at 6:25
I'll try to finish watching it and watch the first later. I've seen the first a few times but want to watch what his body does on the tilt and drop since he is shorter and a lot thinner then the guy in video 2. He doesn't appear to go forward as much as the other guy but his body does appear to push down some when the ride drops. Want to watch it again. Have to drive grandson to school.
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