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Old 04-14-2022, 09:43 AM
 
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So then… What exactly was the issue? That they had to wait on the tarmac for the weather to clear up?
The issue is that they were being told they would have to fly back to JFK, through the severe turbulence that they had just endured. They had already multiple aborted landing attempts at JFK multiple times and diverted to EWR. They didn't feel safe attempting JFK again.
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Old 04-14-2022, 11:05 AM
 
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The issue is that they were being told they would have to fly back to JFK, through the severe turbulence that they had just endured. They had already multiple aborted landing attempts at JFK multiple times and diverted to EWR. They didn't feel safe attempting JFK again.
Yes. At first glance, the headline makes it appear that they simply wanted to get off the plane because they didn’t want to be on the plane anymore, when in fact they were afraid to fly again through the bad weather and they didn’t want to continue the flight. I’d have been terrified too.
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Old 04-14-2022, 11:10 AM
 
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So then… What exactly was the issue? That they had to wait on the tarmac for the weather to clear up?
Yes, they were trying to wait for the weather to clear up before heading back to JFK. The pilot had already attempted to land at JFK multiple times and had to abort the Landing multiple times because of how bad the weather was. The people on the plane we’re understandably traumatized by the multiple aborted landings and did not want to chance flying back to JFK in the bad weather and simply wanted to get off where they were. It’s close enough to JFK from Newark that they could have Ubered to JFK to get cars. They simply wanted their feet on the ground after a terrifying experience.

When I went to Cancun years ago, the pilot announced over the loudspeaker in broken English that there was heavy snow in Philadelphia with poor visibility, but that we were going to attempt to land there anyway. We were all scared lol.
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Old 04-14-2022, 11:24 AM
 
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They weren't offered $50. They were offered $50 in flight credits.

https://www.independent.co.uk/travel...-b2056152.html
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On JetBlue flight 1852 from Cancun, multiple customers were captured on video shouting “Arrest me!” and saying, “I don’t want to go back up in the air” after the troubled landing amid stormy conditions at Newark Liberty International in New York.
Sounds like they simply did not want to fly. They wanted to stay on the ground and were willing to be arrested instead.

Is Customs really that inflexible? What do they do when there are flight delays?
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Old 04-14-2022, 12:08 PM
 
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So then… What exactly was the issue? That they had to wait on the tarmac for the weather to clear up?
Pretty much.
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Old 04-14-2022, 12:11 PM
 
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JetBlue has had major operational issues in the last weeks. It doesn't surprise me at all they were keen to get that plane back to JFK.
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Old 04-14-2022, 12:12 PM
 
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Pretty much.
No, that wasn't the issue. The issue was that they were being forced to go back up into the turbulent air they had just experienced. They were scared, many having anxiety attacks, many throwing up, and they didn't want to be forced to fly again so soon after.
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Old 04-14-2022, 12:14 PM
 
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Yes. At first glance, the headline makes it appear that they simply wanted to get off the plane because they didn’t want to be on the plane anymore, when in fact they were afraid to fly again through the bad weather and they didn’t want to continue the flight. I’d have been terrified too.
But if the PILOTS, who presumably don't want to die either, were OK with waiting for the turbulence to calm, then that should have eased their fears somewhat.

Not that I blame them for wanting to get off, but the airlines could have done a better job of explaining why it wasn't feasible.
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Old 04-14-2022, 12:15 PM
 
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No, that wasn't the issue. The issue was that they were being forced to go back up into the turbulent air they had just experienced. They were scared, many having anxiety attacks, many throwing up, and they didn't want to be forced to fly again so soon after.
But I thought the point of landing at EWR was to wait out the turbulence, so they wouldn't be going back up into it.

I am sure that was small comfort to many, though.

And actually, the post you are replying to was me correcting another that they weren't flying around for hours after the aborted landing. 21 miles is nothing by air.

If you've ever sat in traffic on the route between EWR and JFK, you'd take the risk of turbulence, lol.
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Old 04-14-2022, 12:25 PM
 
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But if the PILOTS, who presumably don't want to die either, were OK with waiting for the turbulence to calm, then that should have eased their fears somewhat.

Not that I blame them for wanting to get off, but the airlines could have done a better job of explaining why it wasn't feasible.
And this is assuming they didn't... Perhaps they did. The video shows a handful of people complaining. The FA can be heard saying something along the lines of "no, it is not 'everyone. who wants to get off now." From what I see, the majority of the passengers appear to be calm and collected. Every plane I have been in that had delays, forced detours, etc., has messages clearly relayed by the captain over speakers.
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