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Old 02-28-2024, 09:58 AM
 
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The article i read said it was kids who dug the hole. All that aside an adult digging a hole at the beach with their kids seems like a fairly innocent activity. I'm sorry but I just dont blame the hole diggers here. It was a freak accident, child was in the wrong place at the wrong time and she needed better adult supervision.
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Old 02-28-2024, 10:03 AM
 
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...an adult digging a hole at the beach with their kids seems like a fairly innocent activity...I just don't blame the hole diggers here...It was a freak accident...
There's an old saying: when you find yourself in a hole, stop digging! Seems that would apply to both the actual hole diggers and you on this thread.
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Old 02-28-2024, 10:15 AM
 
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There's an old saying: when you find yourself in a hole, stop digging! Seems that would apply to both the actual hole diggers and you on this thread.
and you as well!
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Old 02-28-2024, 11:04 AM
 
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I know people who've benefitted from these as well as "meal trains." They usually HAVE a friend or relative put it up for them so they don't seem to be begging for themselves. They certainly know about it since they provide not only contact info, but their very specific food aversions and restaurant preferences!
I find there’s a lot of people on NextDoor, posting sob stories, and asking for money too.
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Old 02-28-2024, 11:05 AM
 
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Exactly. It's a very stupid thing to do.
My pet peeve when I lived at the shore, was that the parents don’t make the kids fill the holes in after they’re done. There were multiple times when I was walking on the beach at night and stepped in one.
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Old 02-28-2024, 12:37 PM
 
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I find there’s a lot of people on NextDoor, posting sob stories, and asking for money too.
It's very off putting to me. We live in an upper middle class/high cost of living town and an absolutely lovely neighbor of ours tragically passed away from cancer in her late 50's. Her adult sons set up a GoFundMe page in my view begging for money, and many neighbors contributed generously because of how much they liked the woman who passed away, and they "raised" well over $100,000.

I thought she was great, but declined to donate and was put off by the shameless request for money. She wasn't super rich by any means, but lived in a $1 million home that I assume was mostly or fully paid off by now. Why exactly her kids needed a six figure windfall from friends and neighbors in addition to inheriting her home and assets is way beyond me.

I understand when a very poor person passes that the community may feel obligated to chip in for funeral expenses. But the ridiculous sob stories and begging for money is a horrible look from my perspective, and just because something tragic happens to you doesn't mean that the world owes you a huge lump sum payment.
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Old 02-28-2024, 12:39 PM
 
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It's very off putting to me. We live in an upper middle class/high cost of living town and an absolutely lovely neighbor of ours tragically passed away from cancer in her late 50's. Her adult sons set up a GoFundMe page in my view begging for money, and many neighbors contributed generously because of how much they liked the woman who passed away, and they "raised" well over $100,000.

I thought she was great, but declined to donate and was put off by the shameless request for money. She wasn't super rich by any means, but lived in a $1 million home that I assume was mostly or fully paid off by now. Why exactly her kids needed a six figure windfall from friends and neighbors in addition to inheriting her home and assets is way beyond me.

I understand when a very poor person passes that the community may feel obligated to chip in for funeral expenses. But the ridiculous sob stories and begging for money is a horrible look from my perspective, and just because something tragic happens to you doesn't mean that the world owes you a huge lump sum payment.
I see gofundmepages set up by people when no even died...I've seen just, oh i'm a single mother, 3 kids, was recently in a car accident, out of work, blah blah. I'm sorry but no...
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Old 02-28-2024, 01:12 PM
 
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I once saw a Gofundme posted by friends of the deceased to fund their taking a few weeks off work without pay to "process and grieve" their loss. They somehow got tens of thousands donated to them! Many people have more dollars than "sense," it seems. They probably grieved on a nice free vacation.

And I remember when funeral expenses were something people planned and saved for, because we all die...

It'd be interesting to ponder what caused such a huge sense of entitlement in whole generations (I notice these are mostly Millennials and Gen X-Zs; not so much Boomers), but I suppose that would be a post for the Psychology, Philosophy, or Parenting forum.
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Old 02-28-2024, 01:22 PM
 
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I once saw a Gofundme posted by friends of the deceased to fund their taking a few weeks off work without pay to "process and grieve" their loss. They somehow got tens of thousands donated to them! Many people have more dollars than "sense," it seems. They probably grieved on a nice free vacation.

And I remember when funeral expenses were something people planned and saved for, because we all die...

It'd be interesting to ponder what caused such a huge sense of entitlement in whole generations (I notice these are mostly Millennials and Gen X-Zs; not so much Boomers), but I suppose that would be a post for the Psychology, Philosophy, or Parenting forum.
I agree with you wholeheartedly re: not liking GoFundMe in general and I'm very turned off by the begging. But in fairness, Boomers are way less computer literate than the younger generations that you mention. So I really don't think it's a culture issue as much as it is that Millennials and Gen Z do absolutely everything online. I'm Gen X with Boomer parents, and they wouldn't have a clue how to set up a GoFundMe if they wanted to.
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Old 02-28-2024, 01:26 PM
 
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I don't agree that it's just a technology gap... It's a cultural shift. I think I can speak for my generation in saying that we weren't raised to beg for freebies and expect others to bail us out, especially of predictable situations or those that are our own fault. If that were the case, we'd have used current "technology" to call people (including strangers) on the phone to wire us money, sent out mass mailings asking for donations, or tacked up flyers on telephone poles advertising our need.

We didn't and wouldn't have dreamed of it.
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