05-26-2011, 04:21 PM
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It seems to me from reading threads and forums that everyone is very cheery and happy answering wives and hubby's questions of relocation from out of state to buy real estate. But when it comes to people who are pet lovers, or single professionals (not going to bars and wanting 20 somethin night life) or renting -- mum's the word or feigned uninterested remarks.
Is it just the contributers on city-data in Dallas or is Dallas itself?
And if it is not Dallas itself -- where do more single professionals without kids congregate location wise -- over 30 crowd. West coast has many professional singles over 40 and no one bats an eyelash.
05-26-2011, 04:24 PM
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It seems to me from reading threads and forums that everyone is very cheery and happy answering wives and hubby's questions of relocation from out of state to buy real estate. But when it comes to people who are pet lovers, or single professionals (not going to bars and wanting 20 somethin night life) or renting -- mum's the word or feigned uninterested remarks.
Is it just the contributers on city-data in Dallas or is Dallas itself?
And if it is not Dallas itself -- where do more single professionals without kids congregate location wise -- over 30 crowd. West coast has many professional singles over 40 and no one bats an eyelash.
What are you talking about? I think you're being over sensitive.
For the last 40+ years, Turtle Creek has been catering to the older professional singles crowd. Other contenders would include downtown, Lakewood, Victory and the Park Cities. The Cedars is also growing an older crowd as well. Lower McKinney Avenue in Uptown is also a place for older singles.
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05-26-2011, 05:29 PM
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I don't know how in the world you got that from either being in Dallas or reading these forums.
For the over-35 singles, check out the following:
-duplexes and rental townhomes/ condos in the Park Cities or Lakewood if you want a more serene, upscale environment
-Turtle Creek for high rise living (I'd guess that 2/3 of my high rise is populated by singles, most over the age of 35....but not all 99 year old grannies either!)
-North Oak Lawn for duplexes and smaller apartment complexes (think Melrose Place)
-Greenway Parks area- a rental in the Pavillion apartments or the Greenway Place condos is great for your demographic!
-Knox-Henderson. Knox Street side has tons of condos & townhomes for rent. The apartments cater to a younger demographic but not the condos & townhomes
-East Dallas- tons of rentals for people of all ages
The problem with your posts is that you're asking WAAAAY too general questions like: (all from your other threads)
"which areas and borders are safe, clean, which areas are fringe or ghetto?"
"prefer cleaner, safer, quieter communities w running/walking trails, pretty (I realize subjective) that is an easy commute (meaning more centrally located possibly) to suburbs or middle, upper middle class areas"
You DID get good responses. I don't know why you aren't researching the areas already suggested to you that DO fit your very general list of needs:
North - Lake Highlands
West - Lakewood
South - Forest Hills and Little Forest Hills
Kessler Park- 75208
Stevens Park- 75208
Winnetka Heights- 75208
Greenway Parks- 75209
Briarwood- 75209
Devonshire- 75209
Bluffview- 75209
University Park- 75225 & 75205
Highland Park- 75205
Knox Street area - 75205
Uptown- 75204
M Streets/ Lakewood Heights- 75206
Hollywood Heights/ Santa Monica- 75223
Lakewood / Ridgewood Park/ Caruth Terrace- 75214
Plano or Southlake
Don't take it so personally. Start investigating these areas on city data or by searching for rentals available in these areas. Once you find a short list of areas that meet your criteria, come back with more pointed questions like "I have to take Bikram yoga. Is there a studio near xyz neighborhood". Or "Where are the good dog parks in abc neighborhood" or "I drive an Audi and it always breaks down. WHere's the nearest dealership" or "abc bar looks cool. what kind of people hang out there" You get the picture. The more detailed info we have, the easier the questions are to answer.
05-26-2011, 07:25 PM
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Thank you both for the listings and info -- esp. the zips.
turtlecreek I'm trying to filter. Can't get more specific in my questions until I get a little bit of assistance (but see below). It does seem that every time a hubby or wife talk about moving with their kids and buying a big home in a nice school district -- everyone is very excited and gives all sorts of information -- esp. if they make over 200K.
Dallas is a big city. Few people unless they are on vacation, or wealthy, or who have few responsibilities can just take off 2 weeks and look at all the nitty gritty side streets and so on to find safe neighborhoods. I actually did that -- crash coursed, 2 days driving all over in a city on the west coast to find I didn't get a good vibe or apts weren't that easy on the second take.
I will look into the areas you listed.
Bottom line -- I am looking for easy drive commute (20-40 min) access to multiple middle, upper middle class neighborhoods and families, and professional single and couples (they are my clients) -- I can't be too far N, S, E, W as that hurts my business since I drive a lot for work (I do consulting).
I want to filter areas for safety, trees, running paths, parks, and quiet -- NOT nightlife, bars, tons of foot traffic, people screaming and laughing at night having fun, loud neighbors and always having to pay to park anywhere. Also not a fan of strip malls and malls so wouldn't want to live near one or in the shopping district hub.
So Dallas, big city, treed, affordability -- seems like a nice option -- out of the box, not what I would have initially thought of. But if there is no room for single over 35 professionals bc they are rarity unless they are ready to buy a home or push a stroller -- or are assumed to live in a neighborhoods that aren't nice or fringe areas or assumed to be into barhopping -- which is the impression I got, I don't know what to do.
I've spoken to realtors (apts) but they also have properties they want to rent so...
I do not want to be in sketchy areas and even 'nice' sections can have their sketchy areas.
I prefer pristine pretty quite 'country' green areas but have to be near/in a city and high pop for business.
Areas to avoid -- mixed neighborhoods, fringe, car break ins, loud at night, litter on sidewalks, a block away from bars or ghetto will be VERY helpful.
Now that I have a list from which to filter. It would really be nice to have a list of places to avoid.
Again thanks for the input.
05-26-2011, 07:28 PM
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Can I get a nice one bedroom in the $750 range? And if so where? And if not, at what rent do I need to go to live nicely near parks, quiet, running trails, trees, safety, and more serence but still be in or near the city with access (drivewise) to downtown and suburbs (soccer moms).
I am coming from spending $1500 mo rents on very substandard 1 beds. Studios, run down, student section, no parking are $1250/$1300. I think rents have increased this past year.
05-26-2011, 07:29 PM
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-- "serenity" -- type too quickly.
05-26-2011, 07:53 PM
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I live in a gated complex and they do have 1 bedroom places and do allow pets over a certain weight. Price I believe is under 700 [but don't quote me on it] zip is 75243. It is a very nice area. and the folks are pretty good. [we don't get too many calls for the Police]. Many older folks live here as well as some families so you do hve kids running around, BUT they are pretty good.
If it interestes you send me a pm and I'll pass on the info.
05-26-2011, 08:39 PM
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I just can't think of anywhere in Dallas that fits your description. Maybe some rental in Highland Park or University Park. It would be an older apartment. There's the Katy hike and bike trail near there and I there are some small pretty parks in both places. It's mostly expensive single family homes, no bars. Southern Methodist University is there, so you'd not want to be too close to that.
Generally, if you look at a map of Dallas and find downtown Dallas, then look straight north of Dallas, straight up all the way into Collin County - that is where the most money is. It takes you right through Highland Park and University Park, straight up the Dallas North Tollway and Hwy 75. Then add the Lakewood area, too which is east of downtown Dallas. Collin County (Plano, Allen, McKinney, Frisco) also has upper middle class people. But within all of that there are pockets of yuck.
So generally, stay in that area. Here is a nice place on the edge of University Park that is newer. I think it's still rentals. I think they tried to convert to condos at one point, but then went back to rentals.
The Caruth
If you are open to living in Collin County, it's safer, cleaner, has a bit more open space and there are a ton of high end apartment complexes - especially in West Plano. You could get near Arbor Hills Nature Preserve. There are some hike and bike trails, but most of them in Plano are just running under high tension wires - it's not anything pretty, it's just functional.
I don't know how you are going to avoid strip malls. We have them at every intersection.
Have you visited yet? Ever?
05-26-2011, 08:52 PM
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Not yet -- I was told Lakewood and M streets -- and I would love being next to white rock lake.
You are right -- what I like is hard to find unless you have more income.
I am taking it you can get nice one bedrooms in nice safe areas for $750 or do I need to bump up? I see townhomes and nice one bedrooms in lakewood but avoiding those 'pockets' is tough without knowing.
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and around white rock lake and that east dallas was sketchy? Or am I getting confused?
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People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)