11-16-2011, 02:58 PM
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I recently relocated to Dallas and live in Plano. I really like the area and the houses but I'm kinda turned off by the small plot sizes. I looked at Frisco but they are even worse. I don't want to don't want to move north of Frisco, or west or east of Plano because of the impact to my commute, so that leaves south...
11-16-2011, 03:32 PM
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Check west of the Tollroad for your price range- zips 75229 and 75220. The neighborhoods between Midway and Marsh will have homes in your price range with bigger lots and easy access to Tollroad. Most neighborhoods will have a voluntary HOA where you chip in $200 or a bit more per year for extra security (off duty police officer patrol) or neighborhood events. Sparkman Club Estates is the only neighborhood I can think of with mandatory HOA since they have a neighborhood clubhouse/pool/tennis courts to upkeep. None of the HOA's in the area have Collin County type rules about which plants you can plant, what color to paint your home, what materials are approved for fences, etc.
11-16-2011, 04:22 PM
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TurtleCreek80
Check west of the Tollroad for your price range- zips 75229 and 75220. The neighborhoods between Midway and Marsh will have homes in your price range with bigger lots and easy access to Tollroad. Most neighborhoods will have a voluntary HOA where you chip in $200 or a bit more per year for extra security (off duty police officer patrol) or neighborhood events. Sparkman Club Estates is the only neighborhood I can think of with mandatory HOA since they have a neighborhood clubhouse/pool/tennis courts to upkeep. None of the HOA's in the area have Collin County type rules about which plants you can plant, what color to paint your home, what materials are approved for fences, etc.
Beat me to it. All great advice. And 2,000 sq ft + in PH proper for under $400k is a pipe dream unless you want a scraper or serious fixer-upper.
11-16-2011, 05:02 PM
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I saw a lot of houses online located near Midway and Forest in the $400 - $365k range. And the neighborhood is listed as Preston Hollow.
Houses not located in the old PH area are not really PH?
11-16-2011, 05:29 PM
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I saw a lot of houses online located near Midway and Forest in the $400 - $365k range. And the neighborhood is listed as Preston Hollow.
Houses not located in the old PH area are not really PH?
The farthest one could possibly stretch the PH neighborhood is from Midway east to Hillcrest, and from Walnut Hill down to Northwest Highway.
Everything else is in the MLS zone "North Dallas/South of LBJ". But "PH" sounds sexier (and more $$$) which is why realtors try to fool people into thinking they're buying into PH, when in reality....they aren't.
11-16-2011, 06:03 PM
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Remember that in many upper middle class neighborhoods in Dallas HOA'S are not needed.People take pride and keep up with their lawns in Preston Hollow,Lakewood,other higher end ($300,00 plus ) Dallas neighborhoods ect...
11-16-2011, 07:06 PM
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If it doesn't look like Preston Hollow, ignore what the realtor says. That's what potential buyers will do come resale time for your house.
11-17-2011, 06:37 AM
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If it doesn't look like Preston Hollow, ignore what the realtor says. That's what potential buyers will do come resale time for your house.
But there's the rub -- the area the OP describes
does look like new Preston Hollow -- which was just a basic 1960s ranch style upper middle class neighborhood before the McMansion teardowns gained a foothold in the area. Nothing looks like "old" Preston Hollow -- and the poster isn't looking for a multi-million dollar house.
If you're looking for a basic 1960s ranch on an expansive lot, the area the OP describes is a great location with the budget the poster has. The only thing that the Preston Hollow moniker buys you for the old ranches is an inflated price for the same basic house.
11-17-2011, 06:55 AM
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SMS- I don't think Grey (or anyone else) is telling the poster not to look in 75229/75220; just cautioning to not overpay for being in a neighborhood it isn't. That doesn't mean OP won't find himself in a bidding war for a mid-century modern in the Disney Streets (midway & royal)!! Still desirable neighborhoods, just not quite the PH $/sf!
11-17-2011, 07:05 AM
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But there's the rub -- the area the OP describes does look like new Preston Hollow -- which was just a basic 1960s ranch style upper middle class neighborhood before the McMansion teardowns gained a foothold in the area. Nothing looks like "old" Preston Hollow -- and the poster isn't looking for a multi-million dollar house.
Here's the weird thing. I was looking in trulia and all of the houses in the area I'm interested in and around my price range has Preston Hollow as the neighborhood. But looking at the same house in Realtor, the neighborhood lines up with what Turtle is saying. Here's an example, what do you think of this house/neighborhood:
4207 Melissa Lane, Dallas TX | MLS# 11539560 - Trulia
4207 Melissa Ln Dallas TX - Home For Sale and Real Estate Listing - MLS #11539560 - Realtor.com®
Bottom line is I don't care what the neighborhood is called, as long as its in a solid, clean, safe area that will hopefully keep its value.
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House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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