Coronavirus in DFW - News & Discussion (Van, China: panels, residents)

[elan]

Here's my two cents. Regardless of what public figures were saying (when and where), Dallas citizens knew in March that we had a potentially dangerous virus knocking on our door. Many made the decision to flirt with the dangers, continuing on with birthday parties and so on. It is my opinion that we have no one to blame but ourselves. For example, look at Collin County and how they handled the virus so much better.

[Katana49]

Originally Posted by CDContribuitor

Please read this and provide your argument.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnb...-pandemic.html

LOL


You're asking the wrong person. Ask EDS, he's the one who's claiming that the decision to close our borders to China and Europe was a good move by the Trump administration.


MY argument was that he did it too late, it was pointless to do so when it was done, and THAT is exactly what Dr. Fauci says in the article you posted.

[CDContribuitor]

I agree with EDS that they were the right move.

It was probably late. But my point is that the President is not going to take that decision unless Dr. Fauci and other officials advise him to do so. From the reports that I have heard, Navarro and other hawks pushed the President to ban travel from China in late January.

So, you putting the blame on the President for having not taken that decision early, is not fair to him. Dr. Fauci, health officials, possibly being misled by Chinese Govt and WHO were to blame for the delay in that decision. Additionally, I feel Dr. Fauci has been reacting rather than leading. I would rather have Sweden's top epidemiologist as our epidemiologist. He took a decision of going with no stringent shutdowns, stuck by it and provided precise guidelines right from the start to the citizens and is continuing to do so.

Originally Posted by Katana49

LOL


You're asking the wrong person. Ask EDS, he's the one who's claiming that the decision to close our borders to China and Europe was a good move by the Trump administration.


MY argument was that he did it too late, it was pointless to do so when it was done, and THAT is exactly what Dr. Fauci says in the article you posted.

[CDContribuitor]

Agree with you on individual responsibility. However, Collin county doing better has to do with demographics and social-economic conditions. For eg: I have seen people in Dallas use masks at stores much more than in Collin county. I believe, given the zip codes where most of the virus spread in Dallas, it has to do with density, multi-generational families living together and possibly among essential workers.

Relatively speaking, Dallas has done better in comparison to other similar cities in the US.

Originally Posted by elan

Here's my two cents. Regardless of what public figures were saying (when and where), Dallas citizens knew in March that we had a potentially dangerous virus knocking on our door. Many made the decision to flirt with the dangers, continuing on with birthday parties and so on. It is my opinion that we have no one to blame but ourselves. For example, look at Collin County and how they handled the virus so much better.

[serger]

Originally Posted by CDContribuitor

I agree with EDS that they were the right move.

It was probably late. But my point is that the President is not going to take that decision unless Dr. Fauci and other officials advise him to do so. From the reports that I have heard, Navarro and other hawks pushed the President to ban travel from China in late January.

So, you putting the blame on the President for having not taken that decision early, is not fair to him. Dr. Fauci, health officials, possibly being misled by Chinese Govt and WHO were to blame for the delay in that decision. Additionally, I feel Dr. Fauci has been reacting rather than leading. I would rather have Sweden's top epidemiologist as our epidemiologist. He took a decision of going with no stringent shutdowns, stuck by it and provided precise guidelines right from the start to the citizens and is continuing to do so.

1. There was no travel ban from China.
2. Sweden did not do well, not even close.

[EDS_]

Originally Posted by serger

1. There was no travel ban from China.
2. Sweden did not do well, not even close.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/president...l-coronavirus/

[CDContribuitor]

1. Travel ban for flights coming from China was ordered on Jan 31. I believe, the ban still exists. Not clear what you are referring to when you say "there was no travel ban from China".
2. Please provide data points on your claim that "Sweden did not do well, not even close." They are at 56 per 100,000 deaths (without stringent shutdowns) while US is at 44 per 100,000 (with stringent shutdowns for 1.5 months). Stockholm numbers are comparable to that of NYC.

Originally Posted by serger

1. There was no travel ban from China.
2. Sweden did not do well, not even close.

[move4ward]

Originally Posted by LeavingMA

Sad, but fear porn. He had a major underlying issue. I find it funny the first younger aged death comes right before schools should be opened.

What underlying condition was it? What are you suggesting about the timing?

[PriscillaVanilla]

Originally Posted by CDContribuitor

Agree with you on individual responsibility. However, Collin county doing better has to do with demographics and social-economic conditions. For eg: I have seen people in Dallas use masks at stores much more than in Collin county. I believe, given the zip codes where most of the virus spread in Dallas, it has to do with density, multi-generational families living together and possibly among essential workers.

Relatively speaking, Dallas has done better in comparison to other similar cities in the US.

I agree with this. We have a lot of anti-maskers in Collin County and the city council members voted against mandatory masks. Even now with the state mandate, many people refuse to wear them.

[elan]

Essential workers live in Collin County. My air conditioner guy lives there and so does the internet repairman they just sent out.