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Old 09-02-2020, 08:10 AM
 
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Don't watch too much fox news, bub.
Funny guy. It's got zero to do with Fox News but thanks for the hackneyed input - as per normal.
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Old 09-02-2020, 09:19 AM
 
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Your time stamping comment noted here's what people are looking at IMO:

CV-19 Death Rates Per Million (source worldmeters, data is 1-day stale)

NJ - 1807
NY - 1698
MA - 1315
CT - 1253
AZ - 693
National Average - 571
GA - 540
FL - 530
Texas - 450
What's the death rate since June 1 or so? NY/NJ have really high population density and got hit hard early on and shut down. Other parts of the country could have learned from the Northeast and West Coast and taken similar measures.
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Old 09-02-2020, 09:51 AM
 
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What's the death rate since June 1 or so? NY/NJ have really high population density and got hit hard early on and shut down. Other parts of the country could have learned from the Northeast and West Coast and taken similar measures.
Sure but that's a different subject.


There is no reason to beleive TX long term CV-19 death rate will be anywhere near half of the same in NY, NJ etc.

I get that popualtion density, cramped public tansportation etc. are issues but those features are sticky and likely a root cause as to why so many are fleeing the above areas.
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Old 09-02-2020, 10:25 AM
 
Location: "The Dirty Irv" Irving, TX
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Funny guy. It's got zero to do with Fox News but thanks for the hackneyed input - as per normal.
Sorry, but the whole "People are FLEEING NYC" sounds like Fox News BS.

NY has seen more people leaving...but that was before Rona. Thats because of COL.

If anyone is leaving over Rona now it is because they lost their job and are moving home with mom and dad......it has nothing to do with the death rates.
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Old 09-02-2020, 12:45 PM
 
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Sorry, but the whole "People are FLEEING NYC" sounds like Fox News BS.

NY has seen more people leaving...but that was before Rona. Thats because of COL.

If anyone is leaving over Rona now it is because they lost their job and are moving home with mom and dad......it has nothing to do with the death rates.

I know it's mostly-impossible for you to stay on point but try....how would you explain the bump in people leaving NY and NJ over the last 6 mos.?



Your last claim is nonsense, washed away with just a bit of reading about rich New Yorkers leaving the city............I'm betting nearly none have moved in with mom and dad.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...ronavirus.html

https://fee.org/articles/andrew-cuom...-he-should-be/

https://cooperator.com/article/wealt...in-droves/full


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ztP-ZTAWlw


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It's clear that long-flow logic isn't your strong suit......taxes are high in NYC, the top 10% of earners pay ~70% of local non-sales taxes. A stastically significant number of rich/upper class New Yorkers have been moving for years.....last data I saw from last year indicated about half of those moving out earned $150K or more and that has gotten way, way, worse* during Covid. The yield is NY will be looking to increase taxes and that's germane to this thread.

*Whether you believe it or not has no impact on reality.

I threw in a little Fox angle for you as well.

Sorry for the typos....
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Old 09-02-2020, 04:29 PM
 
Location: "The Dirty Irv" Irving, TX
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I know it's mostly-impossible for you to stay on point but try....

It's clear that long-flow logic isn't your strong suit......
Surly you learned in fancy pants school that a combination of ad hominems and bragging about how rich yo are aren't a legitimate form of debate...right?
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Old 09-02-2020, 04:53 PM
 
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Sorry, but the whole "People are FLEEING NYC" sounds like Fox News BS.

NY has seen more people leaving...but that was before Rona. Thats because of COL.

If anyone is leaving over Rona now it is because they lost their job and are moving home with mom and dad......it has nothing to do with the death rates.
Just because it sounds like Fox News BS doesn't mean it can't also be true. There are two primary types leaving NYC right now. The ultra wealthy who are camping out at their places in the Hamptons, Aspen, etc until the city is something more normal again. They'll be back. Then you have the objectively well off but what we will call upper middle class NYC families. Dual working professionals who decided not to flee to the suburbs when school for their kids came around, and instead found a slightly cramped in somewhere like Brooklyn. It was always smaller than they wanted but they always had the parks, and in NYC there's always enough to do to keep you out of the house just long enough not to notice how small your place is. Then Covid hit. Those are the families that are moving to NJ, CT, and the Hudson Valley in NY in droves. I suspect most of them won't be back until the kids are out of the house. Putting up with a tiny place in NYC is all well and good when it's all you've ever known as a family. This isn't an opinion and it's not anecdotal. It's based on market data from real estate brokerages that are closing the deals. You are just wrong on this one.
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Old 09-03-2020, 12:37 AM
 
Location: Sputnik Planitia
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For those of you who moved to Dallas from California, New York, New Jersey, Boston, Seattle - the high cost areas to Dallas how much of a hit did you take on salary? If you could share percentage eg 5/10/15/20?
My base salary reduced by 6.6%. However, my overall salary package increased by 14%. When you figure in no state income tax and much lower COL I come out MUCH MUCH MUCH further ahead financially. Why in the world do you think I moved from LA to Dallas? LOL!!!

In actuality it's a bit more complicated. My company in CA was seriously affected by CoVid19 and they cut everyone's salary by 30%. I looked for other jobs but wasn't able to find another job paying what I was making. All the other jobs were paying about 15% less. Then I got a offer in Dallas paying only 6.6% less as I said above but after the entire package was considered (bonus, stock options, COL etc. etc.) much better off.

Not only that I save a couple grand a year in taxes on my investment portfolio that I now don't have to pay CA.

The economy in TX as a whole is HOT. I am in IT and there a lot more jobs here than in Southern California.
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Old 09-03-2020, 01:19 AM
 
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A new issue is NY and CA for sure and NJ and MA and a couple of others are seeing increased out-migration due to covid and related issues.....they'll be looking to increase taxes on those who stay.
Where are they going? With the exception of CA, Texas is doing worse than all those states in regards to COVID.
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Old 09-03-2020, 07:33 AM
 
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Where are they going? With the exception of CA, Texas is doing worse than all those states in regards to COVID.
IMO you and others are committing a stastical time-stamping error. For sure TX has worse numbers today than NY and NJ. Over the last several months it's not even close. Now and into the longer-term people are rightfully concerned about being crammed on subways, busses and ferry-boats etc. People are concerned about living in very dense quarters etc.

Regardless of all that early data indicate many NYers and NJers movers are leaving for the intermountain west, Virginia, The Carolinas and ranging south.
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