Red Light Cameras ? (Millville: credit, school, live)

[nuts2uiam]

Thanks RDLR, I snipped a portion of your link to post for those travelers coming down to the beach as a heads up. The rest of the state is in the link.

Sussex County

Route 1 at Munchy Branch Road/Miller Road This is by Walgreens
Route 1 at Old Landing Road This is by Atlantic Liquors
Route 1 at US 9 / Savannah Road This is by the Lighthouse
US 13 at Road 40/Redden Road
US 113 at Route 20

I have received 2 red light tickets in NY. One my fault and one not. The second one I was behind a tall truck and the view of the light was obstructed and I knew as soon as I hit the intersection I was toast. Didn't fight either - too much of a hassle to appear and plead.

[rothbear]

If you have a stand alone GPS (I have TomTom) you can get, or might already have red light camera warnings on them. At least you know where they are if you are in an unfamiliar area. The first time we visited the area my GPS started to beep loudly at the light on 13 at the Del Tech intersection in Dover and I couldn't figure out what was going on. I didn't realize that my new GPS had it installed on it. I also use Waze sometimes but I'm not sure that is a feature. I tend to agree about the cameras being dangerous. The driver will slam on his brakes to stop at the light instead of chancing a ticket. If someone is close behind it could be a rear-ender.

I agree with nuts above, being behind a huge truck is also a definite disadvantage as you usually can't see when the light is yellow and keep going through.

[Pine to Vine]

Originally Posted by rothbear

I agree with nuts above, being behind a huge truck is also a definite disadvantage as you usually can't see when the light is yellow and keep going through.

If you run a redlight because it is obscured by a huge truck, then you are following too closely.

[nuts2uiam]

Originally Posted by Pine to Vine

If you run a redlight because it is obscured by a huge truck, then you are following too closely.

I did not run a red light. We were stopped waiting for the left turn arrow. Apparently the arrow turned as the truck was into the turn and following behind him (UPS truck size) I could not see the light. If you are in a turning lane and have cars behind you in NY, you will end up in a collision place if you don't move when they do. Secondly, if I admitted to being in the wrong the first time I would have done it the second time.

[Pine to Vine]

Originally Posted by nuts2uiam

I did not run a red light. We were stopped waiting for the left turn arrow. Apparently the arrow turned as the truck was into the turn and following behind him (UPS truck size) I could not see the light. If you are in a turning lane and have cars behind you in NY, you will end up in a collision place if you don't move when they do. Secondly, if I admitted to being in the wrong the first time I would have done it the second time.

I’m afraid you don’t need to convince me. You need to tell it to the judge.

[mp775]

Originally Posted by udelslayer

Red light cameras are a scam and actually lead to more accidents...We had them where I used to live, but the townsfolk would not have it and forced the district to remove them all because they can. They do nothing to enhance the safety of an intersection.

Completely false. Some studies have shown an increase in rear end crashes due to drivers stopping short on yellow, but all studies show a decrease in more severe angle crashes, injuries, and fatalities. Studies also show increases in angle crashes and fatalities in cities that turned off their red light cameras.

https://www.iihs.org/topics/red-light-running

[rdlr]

Back to the subject at hand, I'm expecting a letter from DMV because 2 days ago, I was following a huge, tall box truck, and was about 2 car lengths behind. Sure enough, he went through a yellow light and I went through a red light. It was such a crowded intersection, that I didn't have time to see if there was a red light camera there, or not. I guess I'll know in a few days.

[oceangaia]

Originally Posted by Pine to Vine

I’m afraid you don’t need to convince me. You need to tell it to the judge.

One of the many problems of RLC tickets is you don't get to tell it to a judge. It's civil. You do not have the right to a trial. You are not innocent until proven guilty.


Texas legislature just banned red light cameras statewide. Many large cities had long since done that but there were still some smaller cities and counties using them as revenue generators.

[NJBoy3]

NJ does not permit red light cameras for the reasons listed in posts above.

Of note - My town's police force is going to install several license plate readers to track down suspects when a crime is committed. Gun shots fired, drug sale areas, etc. They are paying 90K for the system. Going to be interesting to see how this plays out.

[oceangaia]

Originally Posted by Pine to Vine

This was a joke (that fell flat). Mea culpa - I forget many who post in CD are extremely literal. That now hopefully clarified, anyone who drives through a red light has violated the law. Regardless of the circumstances, drivers are required to ensure they have a green light before proceeding, whether there is a camera or not. That just the way it works.

As a native Blue Hen who moved back east after 26 years in Texas, that state has some pretty funky laws. I wouldn’t exactly consider Texas to be a model for other states to follow. It’s one of the reasons I moved.

Sometimes people use a smiley to soften the impact of the bitter truth.

And you're wrong. Many locations allow a right turn on red. In that case you are entering the intersection while the light is red. That just the way it works.

You're also allowed to drive through a yellow light.