10-19-2007, 07:21 AM
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I'm not afraid of change. I suspect some of those miserable NY expats, were miserable because all they saw was "cheap housing" without more research to the area. For instance, my husband once had an opportunity to get a job in Casper Wyoming. For what he would have been making there, and the COL, we would need to make more than $200K here... but.... it was CASPER. The nearest 4 year university was in North Dakota. Just cause housing is affordable doesn't mean it is the right place for me. I suspect some of those disgruntled NYers did not take things like that in consideration when they made the move to the south.
It's good you're not afraid of change, because it will be a BIG change, believe me. I had lived in a number of places before I moved here, and it was still a big change. There are some differences I really cannot articulate. You'll know what I mean when you've done it.
10-19-2007, 08:33 AM
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I would look at Colorado Springs before Denver...
Why? I know the military is there. That's almost a deterrent. Even when DH was in, when he was off-duty, he wanted to be as far away from the MIL as he could.
10-19-2007, 08:40 AM
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It's good you're not afraid of change, because it will be a BIG change, believe me. I had lived in a number of places before I moved here, and it was still a big change. There are some differences I really cannot articulate. You'll know what I mean when you've done it.
I'm sure you can't articulate it. Put it to you this way.
When I was 22 years old, I put myself on an airplane, and traveled to Sicily, all by myself. I stayed with a college buddy for awhile, but in the process, I took the train from Rome to Catania, without speaking a word of Italian. Somehow, I got by even if it was a little scary.
Then I took a train from Catania, up to Florence, and lived with a family that I had never met. I was unable to communicate with them at all, unless their daughter was visiting. Fortunately for me, she came to dinner about three days a week.
Every morning, before I went to school, I had breakfast with the father. He would make me coffee and bread with marmalade or butter. I hated marmalade, and Florentine bread... was awful. (Traditionally, the use no salt in the bread and bread really does need a little of it to taste good.) But I sucked it up, ate my bread and drank my coffee. Two weeks into it, on my way home from school, I picked up some cream cheese. A little while later, the mother made me a Tiramisu for my birthday. A little later, I met a guy who ended up being my boyfriend for awhile. I adapted and really enjoyed the differences.
I went to Italy the following summer (as well as Germany where I met up with a pen pal), and the summer after that. Then I went to London and Paris for my honeymoon (w/ a different guy). And shortly after 9/11 (same week) I went to Nice and a small town on the Italian Riveria.
I adapted and I embraced the differences in culture. Sure there were things I missed, but my only regret, is that I didn't have a chance to live in Europe LONGER. (But that wasn't due to lack of trying.)
If I can adapt to a fairly foreign culture, than I certainly can adapt to a different city within the US.
10-19-2007, 09:10 AM
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Thats awesome! My mom has been living in Italy for the past 2 years and I've really wanted to go out there for some time to do the same.. Anyways if you can get by in new york and around european countries then denver will be a walk in the park.
10-19-2007, 09:20 AM
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Thats awesome! My mom has been living in Italy for the past 2 years and I've really wanted to go out there for some time to do the same.. Anyways if you can get by in new york and around european countries then denver will be a walk in the park.
Where in Italy? It's so diverse. I have probably seen more of Italy, than in the US. I love "central" Italy around Tuscana and Umbria. I've seen both sides by the Med, and the Adriatico.
I spent a month in Cortona where that movies was filmed.... The one about the woman who had a divorce? or a break up from SF and moved to Tuscany... Diane Lane.
Cortona is a very, very small town. It can get oppressive at times if you don't have a car because the bus is infrequent and you literally CANNOT walk out of the town since it's on top of a mountain. But it's a very nice place to relax. (We sang an opera there.) It's a nice place to spend time for the summer.
10-19-2007, 10:03 AM
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She lives in a small town called spello in the region of perugia. Its in the middle of the country in between florence and rome. Hopefully I want to spend about a year out there to experience all of the seasons and hopefully get around a bit of europe, the countries are so small its like going to another state out here
10-19-2007, 10:53 AM
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If I can adapt to a fairly foreign culture, than I certainly can adapt to a different city within the US.
I am sure that is true. I think what livecontent and I are trying to say is that it WILL be different. Be prepared for that. Both my kids went to college out of state. They both agreed, it's different than visiting someplace. It's living there. Both have said they can't explain all the differences between Colorado and Indiana/Minnesota, but they're different in little ways and big ways, too.
10-19-2007, 12:23 PM
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I am sure that is true. I think what livecontent and I are trying to say is that it WILL be different. Be prepared for that. Both my kids went to college out of state. They both agreed, it's different than visiting someplace. It's living there. Both have said they can't explain all the differences between Colorado and Indiana/Minnesota, but they're different in little ways and big ways, too.
Oh of course it will be different. And I'm glad for it. I want a change, especially a slower pace.
I'll never forget one summer in Cortona, my colleagues telling me that it took me at least three weeks to slow down and relax a little.
10-19-2007, 12:39 PM
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Oh of course it will be different. And I'm glad for it. I want a change, especially a slower pace.
You may not get the slower pace you are looking for. A lot of people come to Colorado for that, and end up disappoitned. For the most part, it's eat, work, sleep here just like everywhere else. And if you're raising a toddler, as you are, that's a lot of work everywhere! (Been there, done that!)
10-19-2007, 01:35 PM
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You may not get the slower pace you are looking for. A lot of people come to Colorado for that, and end up disappoitned. For the most part, it's eat, work, sleep here just like everywhere else. And if you're raising a toddler, as you are, that's a lot of work everywhere! (Been there, done that!)
I have never visited any place that wasn't slower paced than NYC. Furthermore, unlike some people, our reasons for moving are multi-faceted.
Cheaper - (NY is the most expensive city to live in N.A.)
Slower - (Very few places are this stressed. It was rated as one of the most stressful places in America.)
Geography - Condusive to a more outdoorsy lifestyle.
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People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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