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Old 07-19-2013, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Paranoid State
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The city of Detroit might actually decline even faster now. Read about Valejo Calif. and its bankruptcy. No doubt fire and police will have to be cut, crime and disorder will increase even more and more people will leave. It could be even uglier 2 years from now.
In the case of Vallejo CA, the city explicitly decided not to bring the pensions of retirees into the bankruptcy filing. There was tremendous pressure by the blue state establishment to not to test the priority of pensioners relative to others.

So... current city services were explicitly cut in order to continue paying the outrageous pensions of retirees at 100%. It literally was "Sorry; we can't vaccinate your kid; we have to pay for a 55 year old retirees' pensions. Oh -- that 55 yo retiree? He landed another sweet public sector job so he's double dipping."

Meet the REAL ONE PERCENTERS: Public Sector Union Employees with their gold-plated pensions & Cadillac health care.
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Old 07-19-2013, 09:41 AM
 
Location: Detroit
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The national news outlets are having a field day with this, seemingly taking pleasure in running shot after shot of the worst bombed out neighborhoods of the city. The MSNBC reporter in Detroit said that this was the first major city she's ever been in that doesn't have a rush hour on it's highways. Are you kidding me?
This is the type of crap I don't like. It's bad enough what Detroit is currently going through, it doesn't need to be hyped up worse than it already is. What does Detroit's traffic patterns have to do with the damn bankruptcy anyway? (that rush hour statement was a flat out lie, btw). I really can't stand these news stations sometimes, it's filled with so much negativity it's depressing. Not only locally but national news stations as well (even more so, actually). I'll take a trip to Fox News later when I get off work to see if they blame the democrats. I'll be anyone on this forum they will.
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Old 07-19-2013, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Paranoid State
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It is clear that the state should never have appointed Kevyn Orr, a bankruptcy attorney, to be the emergency manager of Detroit. Instead, it should have appointed a proctologist. Why? Well, if God decided the world needed an enema, He surely would select Detroit for the point of application.
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Old 07-19-2013, 10:56 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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This is the type of crap I don't like. It's bad enough what Detroit is currently going through, it doesn't need to be hyped up worse than it already is. What does Detroit's traffic patterns have to do with the damn bankruptcy anyway? (that rush hour statement was a flat out lie, btw). I really can't stand these news stations sometimes, it's filled with so much negativity it's depressing. Not only locally but national news stations as well (even more so, actually). I'll take a trip to Fox News later when I get off work to see if they blame the democrats. I'll be anyone on this forum they will.
Oh man, I've already been seeing people blame Obama for this.

America uses Detroit as the biggest political pinata ever and I find it more sad than the actual process of Detroit going into bankruptcy (which really isn't that big of a deal unless you're a bondholder or city worker).
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Old 07-19-2013, 11:37 AM
 
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Oh man, I've already been seeing people blame Obama for this.

America uses Detroit as the biggest political pinata ever and I find it more sad than the actual process of Detroit going into bankruptcy (which really isn't that big of a deal unless you're a bondholder or city worker).
Watching the national media punditry on Detroit makes one very cynical. Whatever place they are coming from, they just project all their half-baked theories onto the city.

It makes you lose respect for a lot of people and news organizations.
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Old 07-19-2013, 12:50 PM
 
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Watching the national media punditry on Detroit makes one very cynical. Whatever place they are coming from, they just project all their half-baked theories onto the city.

It makes you lose respect for a lot of people and news organizations.
Could not agree with you more.
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Old 07-19-2013, 01:01 PM
 
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If you have to force people to live in your city then something is seriously wrong. Anyway, I know a lot of cops and firefighters who side-stepped this by living outside of the city and renting some dumpy apartment or paying off a landlord just for the mailing address. It didn't have nearly the impact you think it did.
I doesn't matter what type of side-stepping they were doing. At the end of the day, they still had to majntain their properties and pay taxes on them.
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Old 07-19-2013, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Dorseyville
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I heard on the radio that there are 47 or 48 city labor unions. Any truth?
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Old 07-19-2013, 06:02 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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Detroit denied bankruptcy.

Detroit Bankruptcy Filing Unconstitutional, Must Be Withdrawn, Judge Orders (UPDATE)

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Ingham County Circuit Judge Rosemarie Aquilina said that Detroit's bankruptcy filing violates the Michigan Constitution, which bans any action that threatens to cut the pension benefits of public employees...
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Old 07-19-2013, 06:05 PM
 
Location: MMU->ABE->ATL->ASH
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News headline Monday, Low Level court ruling overturned by appeals court.
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