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Old 06-09-2015, 06:18 AM
 
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Aren't they building some subdivision or apartment complex over there where the Herman Garden projects used to be? I'm not sure if their calling it Herman Gardens anymore, but maybe alot of whites are moving into those newly built homes? you would know more than me about that area though.

Edit: It's called Garden View apartments.
If you look at the links, I think it is pretty clear that Data Druven Detroit meant only the small NW corner of the area to refer to Hermann Gardens, and the graphic designers who made the other map made a leap, from the DDD map, that the whole section was called Hermann Gardens.

It appears that Data Driven Detroit either concluded it was kind of a no man's land or couldn't figure out what the area is called.

From what I can tell from this and their other maps there are large swaths of the city that don't have specific names.

That is somewhat consistent with what I've heard. For instance I have referred to people say they get up in the Northwest Section, but never heard anyone actually say "Berg Lahser."

In Chicago city natives have traditionally used corners ("Milwaukee and Belmont") more than neighborhoods to refer to where they grew up.
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Old 06-09-2015, 08:07 AM
 
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If you look at the links, I think it is pretty clear that Data Druven Detroit meant only the small NW corner of the area to refer to Hermann Gardens, and the graphic designers who made the other map made a leap, from the DDD map, that the whole section was called Hermann Gardens.

It appears that Data Driven Detroit either concluded it was kind of a no man's land or couldn't figure out what the area is called.

From what I can tell from this and their other maps there are large swaths of the city that don't have specific names.

That is somewhat consistent with what I've heard. For instance I have referred to people say they get up in the Northwest Section, but never heard anyone actually say "Berg Lahser."

In Chicago city natives have traditionally used corners ("Milwaukee and Belmont") more than neighborhoods to refer to where they grew up.
Yeah, Warrendale is a big neighborhood, bounded by Rouge Park on the west, Greenfield Road on the east, Joy Road on the north and the southern border changes every couple blocks but its roughly Ford Road west of Southfield Freeway.

Concerning Berg-Lahser, I had seen a street sign with that name in the vicinity of Berg between 7 and 8 Mile Road. My search on Google Maps turned up empty however.

There is a street in this neighborhood that reminds me of the 1960's suburban subdivision that I grew up in Southfield, complete with no sidewalks and "colonials" & "ranches" with attached garages.

-Concerning white neighborhoods in Detroit, I thought that Corktown was majority white.

-In addition, wasn't there a neighborhood of majority white people from Appalachia that was located north of the State Fairgrounds where the Meijer's and the adjacent shopping center is today at Woodward and 8 Mile?
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Old 06-09-2015, 09:29 AM
 
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What about Sherwood Forest? It's one of the nicest neighborhoods I've ever seen in Detroit.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Sh...f0302c3230af78
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Old 06-09-2015, 10:32 AM
 
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What about Sherwood Forest? It's one of the nicest neighborhoods I've ever seen in Detroit.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Sh...f0302c3230af78
That whole area (Palmer Woods, Sherwood Forest, University District, etc.) is majority African American and has been since the 70s.
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Old 06-09-2015, 11:01 AM
 
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If you look at the links, I think it is pretty clear that Data Druven Detroit meant only the small NW corner of the area to refer to Hermann Gardens, and the graphic designers who made the other map made a leap, from the DDD map, that the whole section was called Hermann Gardens.

It appears that Data Driven Detroit either concluded it was kind of a no man's land or couldn't figure out what the area is called.

From what I can tell from this and their other maps there are large swaths of the city that don't have specific names.

That is somewhat consistent with what I've heard. For instance I have referred to people say they get up in the Northwest Section, but never heard anyone actually say "Berg Lahser."

In Chicago city natives have traditionally used corners ("Milwaukee and Belmont") more than neighborhoods to refer to where they grew up.
It seems Chicago natives are more filmier with their neighborhood names, in Detroit we (at least our young generation) more often use a major intersection like instead of Berg-Lasher I usually hear 7 mile and Lasher.
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Old 06-09-2015, 11:25 AM
 
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It seems Chicago natives are more filmier with their neighborhood names, in Detroit we (at least our young generation) more often use a major intersection like instead of Berg-Lasher I usually hear 7 mile and Lasher.
That's what native Chicagoans do as well.

My overall impression is that neighborhood names are something that became more en vogue over the last 30 years or so; older people just tend to say "near the airport " etc.

I have family from Berg Lahser and they just called it the Northwest Side.
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Old 06-09-2015, 05:57 PM
 
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Yeah, Warrendale is a big neighborhood, bounded by Rouge Park on the west, Greenfield Road on the east, Joy Road on the north and the southern border changes every couple blocks but its roughly Ford Road west of Southfield Freeway.

Concerning Berg-Lahser, I had seen a street sign with that name in the vicinity of Berg between 7 and 8 Mile Road. My search on Google Maps turned up empty however.

There is a street in this neighborhood that reminds me of the 1960's suburban subdivision that I grew up in Southfield, complete with no sidewalks and "colonials" & "ranches" with attached garages.

-Concerning white neighborhoods in Detroit, I thought that Corktown was majority white.

-In addition, wasn't there a neighborhood of majority white people from Appalachia that was located north of the State Fairgrounds where the Meijer's and the adjacent shopping center is today at Woodward and 8 Mile?
I'm sure if you chopped Corktown up into some configuration, it would probably be majority white. The map I posted though is divided into census tracts, and it isn't apparently it's own census tract.

I never heard that about the Appalachains within the city borders but Hazel Park has the reputation of being made up of Appalachins who came up to work in the auto factories, so it wouldn't surprise me.

The Google map site you posted is almost exactly where my family lived.

Other interesting ethnic enclaves I am aware of in Detroit:

Chadsey still has a very small population of Hmong.

Chaldean Town, but I've heard it is for all intents and purposes dead.

Hamtramck obviously has a little bit of everything, including a dwindling amount of old Poles.

I would imagine there are a fair amount of Arabic people along the Dearborn border (as confirmed by your post).

Anyone else know of any others?

Obviously SW Detoit is heavily Mexican.
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Old 06-11-2015, 06:40 AM
 
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This dot map might be helpful:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/walkingsf/5560480146/
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Old 06-12-2015, 12:46 AM
 
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I'm sure if you chopped Corktown up into some configuration, it would probably be majority white. The map I posted though is divided into census tracts, and it isn't apparently it's own census tract.

I never heard that about the Appalachains within the city borders but Hazel Park has the reputation of being made up of Appalachins who came up to work in the auto factories, so it wouldn't surprise me.

The Google map site you posted is almost exactly where my family lived.

Other interesting ethnic enclaves I am aware of in Detroit:

Chadsey still has a very small population of Hmong.

Chaldean Town, but I've heard it is for all intents and purposes dead.

Hamtramck obviously has a little bit of everything, including a dwindling amount of old Poles.

I would imagine there are a fair amount of Arabic people along the Dearborn border (as confirmed by your post).

Anyone else know of any others?

Obviously SW Detoit is heavily Mexican.
Delray was a heavily Hungrarian enclave

Old Delray, Hungarians Called it Home Delray Project

http://scholarlycommons.law.northwes...5&context=jclc

The Dexter-Davison-Linwood area was heavily Jewish, as can be evidenced by the plethora of former synagogues in that area that have been converted to churches. Mumford High School was predominantly Jewish in the 1950's. The Northwest Activity Center on Meyer and Curtis was originally the Jewish Vocational Service building.

‘What A Place This Was’ | The Jewish Week

Detroit's original Chinatown was centered around Michigan Avenue around the area where the Federal Building and MGM Casino is today. This district was adjacent to Detroit's red light district/skid row and those buildings were demolished and a new Chinatown was established in the Cass-Peterboro area of the Cass Corridor in 1950's-60's. Now the new Chinatown is dead.

Detroit Chinatown: Welcome Chinatown!
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Old 06-12-2015, 06:24 AM
 
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Delray was a heavily Hungrarian enclave

Old Delray, Hungarians Called it Home Delray Project

http://scholarlycommons.law.northwes...5&context=jclc

The Dexter-Davison-Linwood area was heavily Jewish, as can be evidenced by the plethora of former synagogues in that area that have been converted to churches. Mumford High School was predominantly Jewish in the 1950's. The Northwest Activity Center on Meyer and Curtis was originally the Jewish Vocational Service building.

‘What A Place This Was’ | The Jewish Week

Detroit's original Chinatown was centered around Michigan Avenue around the area where the Federal Building and MGM Casino is today. This district was adjacent to Detroit's red light district/skid row and those buildings were demolished and a new Chinatown was established in the Cass-Peterboro area of the Cass Corridor in 1950's-60's. Now the new Chinatown is dead.

Detroit Chinatown: Welcome Chinatown!
I actually knew about those ones; I was wondering if anyone knew if any other current ethnic enclaves.
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