Boy was I sucker... (Detroit, Royal Oak: section 8, apartment complexes, how much)

[e130478]

I recently moved into the Midtown area at a prime rate (I don't even want to talk about it) thinking it was a artsier, more pre-2005 Royal Oak alternative to the boring burbs. What a joke. This area is still a complete cesspool. You can't leave your apartment/house to walk to the store without being accosted (sometimes aggressively) by panhandlers and thugs. Section 8 is literally everywhere, with a lot of the apartment complexes functioning as quasi-Projects. Cars parked on the street can routinely be seen with their steering wheels locked with The Club (must be natives who know the way things actually work around the area). There is a block of 3rd street with two homeless shelters on it that has literally been turned in a refugee camp, with garbage and furniture strewn across the entire area. UGH... why did I do this.

[MikeBear]

Well, YOU bought it, so sell it now, quickly. Maybe there's another YOU out there that would get you your money back out... lol

[SageCats]

how long ago did you buy? Do you know how much it's worth now (on Zillow?) compared to how much it was when you bought it?

[animatedmartian]

See, your first mistake was looking for something similar to Royal Oak. Of any time period.

[SageCats]

Originally Posted by animatedmartian

See, your first mistake was looking for something similar to Royal Oak. Of any time period.

Is Royal Oak a bad or sketchy neighborhood? I see that it's next to Birmingham. Does that make any difference? Or are Royal Oak and Birmingham night and day?

[animatedmartian]

Originally Posted by SageCats

Is Royal Oak a bad or sketchy neighborhood? I see that it's next to Birmingham. Does that make any difference? Or are Royal Oak and Birmingham night and day?

Hardly. It was more gritty like 20 years ago, but hardly anything compared to Detroit past and present (it's still basically a typical suburb). OP is known as a poster who has nothing positive to say about Detroit ever so they exaggerate to make it seem like it's a scene of Mad Max.

They probably moved near one of the low-income apartments that are still present in parts of Midtown (if they actually did in fact move into Midtown) and there is indeed a homeless shelter on 3rd. But most people who are familiar with any urban city know that these things exist and hardly any city is without them. Unless your a naive suburbanite that doesn't like urban areas anyway, then a couple of panhandlers just might actually seem scary.

[e130478]

Originally Posted by animatedmartian

Hardly. It was more gritty like 20 years ago, but hardly anything compared to Detroit past and present (it's still basically a typical suburb). OP is known as a poster who has nothing positive to say about Detroit ever so they exaggerate to make it seem like it's a scene of Mad Max.

They probably moved near one of the low-income apartments that are still present in parts of Midtown (if they actually did in fact move into Midtown) and there is indeed a homeless shelter on 3rd. But most people who are familiar with any urban city know that these things exist and hardly any city is without them. Unless your a naive suburbanite that doesn't like urban areas anyway, then a couple of panhandlers just might actually seem scary.

First, I'm not scared, I'm pissed. I have more street smarts than you'd ever hope to have. I told one the other day I'd kill him if ever asked me for "thirty cent" ever again. Dumbass asked me not a day later in front of the same spot. Waste of life.

[SageCats]

"waste of life"?

You know that the homeless, the drug addicts, the destitute, and all "those people" are humans, too... just like you and me.

[citylover89]

Originally Posted by e130478

I recently moved into the Midtown area at a prime rate (I don't even want to talk about it) thinking it was a artsier, more pre-2005 Royal Oak alternative to the boring burbs. What a joke. This area is still a complete cesspool. You can't leave your apartment/house to walk to the store without being accosted (sometimes aggressively) by panhandlers and thugs. Section 8 is literally everywhere, with a lot of the apartment complexes functioning as quasi-Projects. Cars parked on the street can routinely be seen with their steering wheels locked with The Club (must be natives who know the way things actually work around the area). There is a block of 3rd street with two homeless shelters on it that has literally been turned in a refugee camp, with garbage and furniture strewn across the entire area. UGH... why did I do this.

I have talked to literally hundreds of people who move to Detroit and end up feeling the exact same way. I live in the Detroit area, was born there and I would never live in Detroit itself. I haven't seen much improvement there for me to live there and I am in the city frequently. There's too much corruption and negativity. It's sad.

An "artsier, pre-2005 Royal Oak"...not sure you are gonna find that in Michigan lol.

[animatedmartian]

Originally Posted by e130478

First, I'm not scared, I'm pissed. I have more street smarts than you'd ever hope to have. I told one the other day I'd kill him if ever asked me for "thirty cent" ever again. Dumbass asked me not a day later in front of the same spot. Waste of life.

Wow, so edgy. Not like that doesn't ever happen in Detroit, ever.

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So you're pissed about moving into a city where people share your mentality? Or you were pissed because you were looking for a place where people didn't share your mentality? I'm confused.

No one lied to you about the state of the city. The city is getting better, but with an attitude like "I'm going to kill this guy for asking me for some pennies" then you're not one of the people actually making the city better.