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Jamin You are a good spokesperson for the supplement industry but i dont trust these cure all supplements that are non government regulated and my doctors dont prescribe them for my maladies.
Some points to ponder =https://www.fda.gov/ForConsumers/Con.../ucm341344.htm
We are like jack spratt and his wife...you don't trust supps and I don't trust drugs.
If I was going to recommend a supplement for blood sugar control it would be Berberine. This is proven to be just as effective as Metformin. This is not what the OP was asking for however and this is FYI only. https://examine.com/supplements/berberine/
Very impressive article on the extensive research done on Berberine. It does appear to be as effective as standard prescription drugs in treating blood sugar levels.
One might ask then, why isn't it offered as treatment by mainstream docs?
Three obvious reasons: [1] doesn't appear to be any long term studies. [b] no studies to standardize optimal dosing, and [3] most of the studies seem to come from China and it's marketed by them as a supplement, not a drug. As such it avoids going thru FDA scrutiny and the required, expensive testing and quality control assurances of the FDA process.
You probably don't buy your dog food or baby formula from China. Should you buy your drugs from them?
One might ask then, why isn't it offered as treatment by mainstream docs?
Three obvious reasons: [1] doesn't appear to be any long term studies. [b] no studies to standardize optimal dosing, and [3] most of the studies seem to come from China and it's marketed by them as a supplement, not a drug. As such it avoids going thru FDA scrutiny and the required, expensive testing and quality control assurances of the FDA process.
You probably don't buy your dog food or baby formula from China. Should you buy your drugs from them?
You forgot at least two other obvious reasons. Big Pharma can't make any money from it and mainstream most docs don't believe in supplements. Yes, China has gotten a bad reputation from some bad products that they put out and continue to do so in the name of profit. This does not mean that everything from China is associated with that. In the case of the article, they are not selling anything. It is just a study. The organization that puts it out is here https://examine.com/about/
I also don't buy the product from China, it is from the USA
Very impressive article on the extensive research done on Berberine. It does appear to be as effective as standard prescription drugs in treating blood sugar levels.
One might ask then, why isn't it offered as treatment by mainstream docs?
Three obvious reasons: [1] doesn't appear to be any long term studies. [b] no studies to standardize optimal dosing, and [3] most of the studies seem to come from China and it's marketed by them as a supplement, not a drug. As such it avoids going thru FDA scrutiny and the required, expensive testing and quality control assurances of the FDA process.
You probably don't buy your dog food or baby formula from China. Should you buy your drugs from them?
It surprises me that you say what you have...MD's are in business to write scripts...plain and simple...and who knows may get pay backs from every drug they write, we've had a long thread going on this issue.
Iodine is so necessary for all our body tissues and I'm sure the word iodine deficiency and use is NEVER brought up by the conventional MD's,,,,a quality bottle of Iodine for consumption is about $12.
You forgot at least two other obvious reasons. Big Pharma can't make any money from it and mainstream most docs don't believe in supplements. Yes, China has gotten a bad reputation from some bad products that they put out and continue to do so in the name of profit. This does not mean that everything from China is associated with that. In the case of the article, they are not selling anything. It is just a study. The organization that puts it out is here https://examine.com/about/
I also don't buy the product from China, it is from the USA
And supplement companies are in business to sell supplements. So what's your point?
Of course, everyone is in business to make profits and for probably the last 30 yrs I've had a gripe against the pharma hogs and the mega profits making their stockholders happy and fat. We could go on about this issue forever, but won't. Pharma has been KING for too long and losing a bit of their position in the worlds of healing, thank goodness. And yes, I take a couple of meds...so don't want to go there...and lots of supps for PREVENTION of what "could" hit me. J
It surprises me that you say what you have...MD's are in business to write scripts...plain and simple...and who knows may get pay backs from every drug they write, we've had a long thread going on this issue.
Iodine is so necessary for all our body tissues and I'm sure the word iodine deficiency and use is NEVER brought up by the conventional MD's,,,,a quality bottle of Iodine for consumption is about $12.
A) No, MDs make their money whether they write prescriptions or not. But when a pt has to pay $100 or so out of his pocket when visiting the doc because he has a routine, common cold that actually needs no treatment and there is no drug treatment for the virus, he EXPECTS a prescription and is disappointed and insulted when he doesn't get one.
B) Huge goiters were not at all uncommon in the MidWest until they started iodizing salt. It's now a little difficult to find salt that doesn't have Iodine added or to find a respectable goiter anymore. Why would anyone pay $12 for Iodine tabs when they can get all they need for a year in $0.50 worth of Morton's Salt? BTW- too much Iodine suppresses your thyroid. Not good.
A) No, MDs make their money whether they write prescriptions or not. But when a pt has to pay $100 or so out of his pocket when visiting the doc because he has a routine, common cold that actually needs no treatment and there is no drug treatment for the virus, he EXPECTS a prescription and is disappointed and insulted when he doesn't get one.
B) Huge goiters were not at all uncommon in the MidWest until they started iodizing salt. It's now a little difficult to find salt that doesn't have Iodine added or to find a respectable goiter anymore. Why would anyone pay $12 for Iodine tabs when they can get all they need for a year in $0.50 worth of Morton's Salt? BTW- too much Iodine suppresses your thyroid. Not good.
I've been studying the Iodine deficiency for years all since the best selling book: Iodine Deficiency came out...and many of us don't use the Morton salts. I don't...it's bleached salts from all I've read. Anyway, I know another topic and I'm comfortable with my iodine dosing..I have a c ouple posts in Alt Med in Iodine and it's need for all body tissues, breasts for sure. Many now too, keep low salt intake.
As with all info, there are many many who have opinions and facts/figures and write their articles and books.
good news for me - after 5 weeks of working hard and doing what I should be doing I've got a better handle on things. Doctor agrees with me - no Trulicity!! I am still on Metformin, and we will check again in 30 day to see how to adjust that. down 14 pounds -yay me!! and feeling better. I still have some investigation to do into on Berberine and other suppliments. but I think I'm on the right track.
thanks all!
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