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Dated and biased nonsense. Fat is essential for survival. If it wasn't, the body wouldn't try to save as much of it as possible. Fat makes up 40% of my food intake, much of it is saturated fat. I am as healthy as could be.
Sure, fat is essential for survival. But having fat be 40% of one’s diet is absolutely not essential for survival.
No one ever seems to mention the traditional Okinawan diet — only 7% fat and Okinawans were famous for their longevity.
I always find it weird when people say something like “fat is essential for survival.” It’s like saying “food is essential for survival ,” as all food — every single item, except for salt and pure sugar, has fat in it. Yup, even food that we do not associate with fat ha ecfar in them, sometimes a lot. Raspberries are 12% fat; spinach is 14% fat; plain oatmeal cooked in water is something like 15% fat. Even nonfat foods have fat in them … and sometimes a lot of fat. All the “nonfat” label means is that there is less than .4g of fat per serving where serving size can be as small as the manufacturer desires.
Sure, fat is essential for survival. But having fat be 40% of one’s diet is absolutely not essential for survival.
No one ever seems to mention the traditional Okinawan diet — only 7% fat and Okinawans were famous for their longevity.
I always find it weird when people say something like “fat is essential for survival.” It’s like saying “food is essential for survival ,” as all food — every single item, except for salt and pure sugar, has fat in it. Yup, even food that we do not associate with fat ha ecfar in them, sometimes a lot. Raspberries are 12% fat; spinach is 14% fat; plain oatmeal cooked in water is something like 15% fat. Even nonfat foods have fat in them … and sometimes a lot of fat. All the “nonfat” label means is that there is less than .4g of fat per serving where serving size can be as small as the manufacturer desires.
There are over 7 billion people on this planet and they all have unique fingerprints and DNA. Some people can thrive on certain type of diets. The low-fat component of the Okinawan diet is just one of many factors that help them live longer. The Sicilians in Italy who eat more fat than the Okinawans also live a long time. You are acting like a hammer looking for a nail that fits your bias, prejudice, upbringing, etc. This kind of thinking is how bad studies were conducted by biased people. They looked at people who died of heart diseases and screamed, "it's the saturated fat the caused the heart disease." But they ignored the junk food, sedentary lifestyle, and smoking that played a role. The Inuit people eat a very high-fat diet, yet they have very few incidents of heart diseases.
As for me, I am 56 and can still run, have near perfect vision in both eyes, and don't have to take any pill for any diseases. Can you say the same about yourself?
Sure, fat is essential for survival. But having fat be 40% of one’s diet is absolutely not essential for survival.
No one ever seems to mention the traditional Okinawan diet — only 7% fat and Okinawans were famous for their longevity.
I always find it weird when people say something like “fat is essential for survival.” It’s like saying “food is essential for survival ,” as all food — every single item, except for salt and pure sugar, has fat in it. Yup, even food that we do not associate with fat ha ecfar in them, sometimes a lot. Raspberries are 12% fat; spinach is 14% fat; plain oatmeal cooked in water is something like 15% fat. Even nonfat foods have fat in them … and sometimes a lot of fat. All the “nonfat” label means is that there is less than .4g of fat per serving where serving size can be as small as the manufacturer desires.
I wonder where you get your facts? I read them and they didn't seem right. Is it from a vegan propaganda web site or something?
You can also look these up with the USDA to find similar results.
There are over 7 billion people on this planet and they all have unique fingerprints and DNA. Some people can thrive on certain type of diets. The low-fat component of the Okinawan diet is just one of many factors that help them live longer. The Sicilians in Italy who eat more fat than the Okinawans also live a long time. You are acting like a hammer looking for a nail that fits your bias, prejudice, upbringing, etc. This kind of thinking is how bad studies were conducted by biased people. They looked at people who died of heart diseases and screamed, "it's the saturated fat the caused the heart disease." But they ignored the junk food, sedentary lifestyle, and smoking that played a role. The Inuit people eat a very high-fat diet, yet they have very few incidents of heart diseases.
As for me, I am 56 and can still run, have near perfect vision in both eyes, and don't have to take any pill for any diseases. Can you say the same about yourself?
The only NON-essential macro nutrients are carbohydrates. For the organs that require glucose like the brain, the liver is able to make it if not provided by diet. That I would assume it's how it works with the Inuit although it's probably been a long time since most Inuits live only on whale and seal. Once they were introduced to the Western Diet, they began to have health problems. Kind of tells you something, not really "kind of" though, it's pretty obvious.
yes,the traditional Inuit way of life is all fat and protein,they do eat some berries and seaweed when available.
But then tell it to the ricksaw drivers,they eat rice,rice and rice,same with runners,arent they served pasta before t hey start the marathon?
yes,the traditional Inuit way of life is all fat and protein,they do eat some berries and seaweed when available.
But then tell it to the ricksaw drivers,they eat rice,rice and rice,same with runners,arent they served pasta before t hey start the marathon?
That's just it. Two different fuel sources, fat or sugar.
Either one can cause health problems, it depends on what else you eat and your lifestyle along with genetics.
For example, eating fat AND sugar combined is way worse than either one by itself. Couple that with a sedentary lifestyle and you will have problems. This is more true if the sugar or carbs you eat of the refined type. Runners will burn the pasta they eat, that's a given. An even more extreme example are some of the Kenyan marathon runners who are known to eat pure sugar right before a race and these guys are lean as can be.
In some parts of the world,fat is welcome,as you dont get to eat on a regularly basis and eat well.
In Siberia,parents will slap a thick piece of lard between 2 slices of bread and send their kids to school.
The word 'diet' does not exist in many cultures!
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Hey, mojo101,
Somewhere around March, I started eating ~3 inches of boiled daikon radish, ~3 inches of eggplant, ~half of bittermelon, 1 cucumber. 2 of the 4 every day.
About May, BGL drops 20 points to 105-120 fasting AM and has stayed consistently down. Lower highs after meal readings too.
Also added EZETIMBE 10mg and Metoprolol 25mg.
Much reduced hot flashes and are low intensity.
Something happen. No sure what.
I never saw any weight loss when I started MF some +10 years ago. Now age 71.
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Somewhere around March, I started eating ~3 inches of boiled daikon radish, ~3 inches of eggplant, ~half of bittermelon, 1 cucumber. 2 of the 4 every day.
About May, BGL drops 20 points to 105-120 fasting AM and has stayed consistently down. Lower highs after meal readings too.
Also added EZETIMBE 10mg and Metoprolol 25mg.
Much reduced hot flashes and are low intensity.
Something happen. No sure what.
I never saw any weight loss when I started MF some +10 years ago. Now age 71.
good for you,does the daikon make you go to the bathroom more?
Japanese women in the old days will place 2 slices of Daikon under their armpit as deordorant !
do you exercise besides eating ?
Well, this thread (in the "diabetes" forum) about "metformin and weight loss" sure went off the rails.
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