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ok, how many high fat intakers work out that intensely?
Quite a few, myself included. High fat/low carb diets are pretty much the norm in powerlifting and bodybuilding circles depending on which cycle they are on.
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Originally Posted by brooklynborndad
the bodys starvation response. Doesnt sound like a natural approach to eating to me.
Do you even know what ketosis is? Ketosis and starvation are on completely different ends of the diet spectrum.
my wife had hyperemesis in pregnancy, and the docs were very worried about starvation ketosis.
Click the Wiki link that comes up first and read it. It explains it pretty thoroughly. Pay special attention to this part.
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The ketogenic diet is a high-fat, adequate-protein, low-carbohydrate diet that in medicine is used primarily to treat difficult-to-control (refractory) epilepsy in children. The diet mimics aspects of starvation by forcing the body to burn fats rather than carbohydrates. Normally, the carbohydrates contained in food are converted into glucose, which is then transported around the body and is particularly important in fuelling brain function. However, if there is very little carbohydrate in the diet, the liver converts fat into fatty acids and ketone bodies. The ketone bodies pass into the brain and replace glucose as an energy source. An elevated level of ketone bodies in the blood, a state known as ketosis, leads to a reduction in the frequency of epileptic seizures.[1]
Right there, it tells you that it "mimics aspectsof starvation" to accomplish it's goal. That simply cannot be done if you are actually starving yourself and every ketogenic diet makes this very clear. Now you can get similar effects with starvation but we're pretty clearly not talking about doing that here.
Click the Wiki link that comes up first and read it. It explains it pretty thoroughly. Pay special attention to this part.
Right there, it tells you that it "mimics aspectsof starvation" to accomplish it's goal. That simply cannot be done if you are actually starving yourself and every ketogenic diet makes this very clear. Now you can get similar effects with starvation but we're pretty clearly not talking about doing that here.
I said, originally, that ketosis is the body's response to starvation. Nothing you have said contradicts that.
I said, originally, that ketosis is the body's response to starvation. Nothing you have said contradicts that.
I chose my words poorly as I assumed we were both talking about ketogenic diets, but that piece I posted points out very clearly that ketosis can be obtained without starvation and is thus the basis for every keto diet known to man.
I chose my words poorly as I assumed we were both talking about ketogenic diets, but that piece I posted points out very clearly that ketosis can be obtained without starvation and is thus the basis for every keto diet known to man.
and my point was that a keto diet works by eliciting the same response in the body as starvation does.
ok, how many high fat intakers work out that intensely? Just doesn't make sense to take in more than double the calories for the same portion size. I'd much rather feel full and take in food that will be utilized by the body immediately as energy.
Uh, what am I Lance Armstrong....work out...rah rah. No, I work out 5 days a week, 30 minutes a day....30 minutes hard with no break, no problems for me. I do a modified cyclic ketogenic diet....eat no carbs for days on end...then have a carb meal....works great.
the bodys starvation response. Doesnt sound like a natural approach to eating to me.
Partially right, you can also have ketone bodies present due to the fact that you are eating high levels of dietary fat with no/little carbs.....hardly starvation. Any time you are losing fat, that means you are burning fat for energy...does not sound too unnatural to me.
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