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Society has told people its okay to make excuses. All individuals have the ability to use will power and make hard choices. They just choose not to because making excuses is easier and society seems to accept them.
People would rather be victims than try hard and succeed.
Actually, society does not send that message as much as it sends the message "You need to be thin.", "You're fat because you are weak.", "You're fat because you don't make wise eating decisions."
Charles, surgery isn't a fantastic solution for that person who can't/won't stop themselves from overeating.
Yes it is. And the reason is, surgery (nearly) prevents someone from overeating. It is nearly physically impossible to overeat with the VSG. The long term success rate is close to 100%.
But, and this is a big but, surgery isn't for everyone. It really is for people with a minimum BMI of 35 - that's more than a couple pounds overweight.
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Originally Posted by Kim in FL
Weight Watchers isn't a fantastic solution for that person who can't/won't stop themselves from overeating.
Medi Weight Lose isn't a fantastic solution for that person who can't/won't stop themselves from overeating.
Jenny Craig isn't a fantastic solution for that person who can't/wont' stop themselves from overeating.
Wow, you lost 500 pounds? Is that in one continuous effort (which makes me wonder how you could have gotten so overweight) OR is it losing 5 pounds (and regaining 5 pounds) 100 times or is it something in between?
One continuous weight loss and I got so overweight because I was married, had children and did not lose the weight gained from 3 pregnancies and I was a very emotional eater. All of that culminated over about a 10 year time frame and I ended up at right around 650 pounds. I am not exactly sure how much because the scale at the Doctor's office was red lined and would not go any higher. Now I weight a wee bit less that 150 exactly and it took me right at 13 years to change my lifestyle completely and adapt to those changes before I set my goal to change something else. A food addiction is just as severe as a drug addiction but it at times is worse to get over when someone is an emotional eater. They may be doing fine and something happens one day and the binge starts small and very quickly spirals toward absolute out of control. Then the emotions happen again and it continues but is a wee bit worse, then you are kicking yourself because you lost control in the first place then you grab a cookie. Just one cookie won't hurt, it will soothe me, relax me, just one cookie and the next thing you know it turns into one entire bag of cookies and you have already opened the chips and dip as well and round and round the carousel goes.
Yes it is. And the reason is, surgery (nearly) prevents someone from overeating. It is nearly physically impossible to overeat with the VSG. The long term success rate is close to 100%.
But, and this is a big but, surgery isn't for everyone. It really is for people with a minimum BMI of 35 - that's more than a couple pounds overweight.
Yes, I agree.
And it's for those who can prove (pre op) they have the self control to lose weight on their own. If not, they shouldn't be having surgery. It's a waste of time.
It's not impossible to overeat after weight lose surgery. My BIL is a perfect example. He lost weight post op, but at his one yr check up, he was at his pre op weight. How you ask....by literally eating all friggin day long.
If a person had enough "will power" before surgery, then he wouldn't need surgery.
They do have enough willpower, they are just choosing not to use it, they want the easy way out. And sadly they really believe that surgery is the way out...it's not. It's a joke. A huge money making joke.
They do have enough willpower, they are just choosing not to use it, they want the easy way out. And sadly they really believe that surgery is the way out...it's not. It's a joke. A huge money making joke.
What's wrong with an easy way out? Only a moron would chose the more difficult (struggling, will power, deprivation, frustration vs reduced capability to take in large quantities of food) of two methods to achieve success.
"By most estimates, 80% or more of patients do well after surgery, says Atul Madan, MD, chief of bariatric surgery at the University of Miami School of Medicine. "They have lost the weight they wanted to lose and have kept it off."
Quality of life is vastly improved after bariatric surgery, Madan tells WebMD. "Multiple studies show that patients are healthier. They have fewer obesity-related conditions like sleep apnea, hypertension, diabetes, metabolic syndrome, and other medical problems.""
"A long term study following patients for up to 14 years after surgery found that 89% of weight-loss was maintained."
from
Pories WJ, Swanson MS, MacDonald KG, et al. Who Would Have Thought It? – An Operation Proves to be the Most Effective Therapy for Adult-Onset Diabetes Mellitus. Annals of Surgery
[quote=Charles;29219549]What's wrong with an easy way out? Only a moron would chose the more difficult (struggling, will power, deprivation, frustration vs reduced capability to take in large quantities of food) of two methods to achieve success.
So you are saying I am a MORON for NOT having major body changing life threatening surgery for my weight loss? My response to this is not able to be posted since I do not want to voluntarily be suspended for TOS violations.
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We all have willpower, some of us actually choose to engage it.
