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I definitely seem to have a problem with regard to calorie counts. They simply aren't right for me. Doing the math never works right. So, for instance, I have had my TEE tested and calculators get me around 1550 burned off per day. So, I set my calories eaten per day to 1000... and don't lose. I know a lot of people like this.
But now there is a growing body of evidence suggesting that if you have a certain type of gut bacteria it could give you a greater extraction of calories in the food you eat, thus leading to more calories taken in. So you eat 1000 calories but extract 1200 cals. https://www.livescience.com/63232-yo...ight-loss.html
So what seems to work for changing you bacteria is eating whole and natural veggies and fruits. A plant based diet. I have to say that is 100% different than how I eat now. There are different theories on this, some say fiber does it, some say change in PH does it, but it seems clear that meat can whipe the gut of "diet" bacteria and also a high fat diet can do it as well in as little as 4 days.
Adding to this is recent studies that have suggested that artificial sweeteners can also whipe the diet bacteria out. There hasn't been a day since I was 15 that I haven't had artificial sweeteners. And they are in so much food that is processed even if they aren't "diet".
Add to that, I don't know a single vegetarian that is fat. Also, diets that aren't meant to be plant based but kind of are because of what they want you to eat (such as volumentrics) do seem to have better results than regular diets. I used to think it was because they were eating less calories but perhaps there is a double effect, less calories and less taken in by your body. So you eat 1000 calories of plant foods and only really absorb 900 cals. https://www.independent.co.uk/life-s...-a7787061.html
This makes a lot of sense for me. The bacteria theory works because you STILL can lose weight on a Keto or a diet plan like Jenny Craig, it is just that if you don't change your bacteria you won't lose as much and could gain it back easily.
The only daunting challenge for me here is that this is a way of eating I really dislike. But perhaps that is the gut bacteria talking.
I definitely seem to have a problem with regard to calorie counts. They simply aren't right for me. Doing the math never works right. So, for instance, I have had my TEE tested and calculators get me around 1550 burned off per day. So, I set my calories eaten per day to 1000... and don't lose. I know a lot of people like this.
But now there is a growing body of evidence suggesting that if you have a certain type of gut bacteria it could give you a greater extraction of calories in the food you eat, thus leading to more calories taken in. So you eat 1000 calories but extract 1200 cals. https://www.livescience.com/63232-yo...ight-loss.html
So what seems to work for changing you bacteria is eating whole and natural veggies and fruits. A plant based diet. I have to say that is 100% different than how I eat now. There are different theories on this, some say fiber does it, some say change in PH does it, but it seems clear that meat can whipe the gut of "diet" bacteria and also a high fat diet can do it as well in as little as 4 days.
Adding to this is recent studies that have suggested that artificial sweeteners can also whipe the diet bacteria out. There hasn't been a day since I was 15 that I haven't had artificial sweeteners. And they are in so much food that is processed even if they aren't "diet".
Add to that, I don't know a single vegetarian that is fat. Also, diets that aren't meant to be plant based but kind of are because of what they want you to eat (such as volumentrics) do seem to have better results than regular diets. I used to think it was because they were eating less calories but perhaps there is a double effect, less calories and less taken in by your body. So you eat 1000 calories of plant foods and only really absorb 900 cals. https://www.independent.co.uk/life-s...-a7787061.html
This makes a lot of sense for me. The bacteria theory works because you STILL can lose weight on a Keto or a diet plan like Jenny Craig, it is just that if you don't change your bacteria you won't lose as much and could gain it back easily.
The only daunting challenge for me here is that this is a way of eating I really dislike. But perhaps that is the gut bacteria talking.
I not only know overweight vegetarians, I know a reasonably decent amount of them. I can think of ten people in my life who are either vegetarians or vegans and at least five of them are obese.
So now I have to worry about a) insulin resistance, b) cellular issues and c) gut bacteria? And I've also learned reading through this forum that I shouldn't eat meat or carbohydrates. No wonder we're getting fatter, it's impossible for us to overcome our bodies complexities and figure out the right balance of advanced scientific theories to apply.
Why is it easy to gain weight but complicated to lose it? Why are our bodies only resistant to the basic laws of physics when we're trying to explain why we're not losing, but not while we're gaining? Our metabolisms go into starvation mode when we under-consume but are happy to accommodate us when we over-consume?
I feel so bad for people who come to these forums looking for solid, constructive advice; there's so little of it to be found.
Adding to this is recent studies that have suggested that artificial sweeteners can also whipe the diet bacteria out. There hasn't been a day since I was 15 that I haven't had artificial sweeteners. And they are in so much food that is processed even if they aren't "diet".
So now I have to worry about a) insulin resistance, b) cellular issues and c) gut bacteria? And I've also learned reading through this forum that I shouldn't eat meat or carbohydrates. No wonder we're getting fatter, it's impossible for us to overcome our bodies complexities and figure out the right balance of advanced scientific theories to apply.
I think eventually it will turn out that the answer is the opposite of what we do now. Now we assume everyone is the same and there is one system at play. Eventually it will be realized that everyone is different and that there are several different systems that control. Before starting a diet you would find out what is happening with your body.
For example.. I do not think I have an insulin resistance problem. I have been tested extensively and have poor results on a keto diet. So that "wing" is under control. And if I am not losing as I wish I need to look to something else.
But it seems the body isn't that complex. Basically it expects us to eat the food we did 50 years ago. No artificial sweeteners, lower or less sugar, and lower or less meat. It is the modern food that is killing us from several different angles.
I haven't met any fat vegetarians but if it turn out they have their gut health under control but have insulin resistance, then they have one of the several systems malfunctioning.
As I mentioned the gut bacteria theory works for people losing weight. It is just you aren't losing as much as if you had better bacteria.
I'm averaging almost 2 lbs a week, so I'm losing at a pretty good clip... and this is on insulin.
The IF is causing the amount of insulin being injected to be down significantly.
Also, looking more into it -- it is kind of depressing. It has been shown that handlers of mice can affect the gut biome of the mice - just by touching / handling them. So, is this why my cat is overweight just like me? No matter what I feed him. We are overweight in the same way... just overweight not obese.
Further, if I manage to change my biome, will petting my cat contaminate me? A lot of people I know I have pets that are like them. Many vets have observed this.
Is this how obesity can "spread"? For instance I commute in a big city. Assuming over years I pick up bacteria from others that can make me fatter. I happen to live in an area with a lot of thin people but also take a train line that goes to the airport.
Does this make sense that there are certain areas that are just filled with extremely obese people (such as Houston Texas) but other areas with mostly thin or underweight people. But it is geographic.
Read an interesting thing last night that surmised that bacteria only works to give its host benefits when it needs the host to get it food. So if you are stuffing your bacteria with more food than it needs - it will stop being beneficial. But if you starve it... it will give the host benefits to increase the likelihood of getting its nutrients. So the theory is that glucose intolerance starts in part due to the bacteria failing to do their job. For instance, the bad bacteria thrives on nitrogen which is abundant in meat. Especially red meat. So this might be how someone gets insulin resistance after not eating a lot of carbs.
This also could be a reason that dieting / calorie restriction / intermittent fasting, works so well for health. Regardless of if you lose weight or not. All your bacteria goes on a diet and fires on all cylinders to keep you as healthy as possible so it will get what it wants.
Finally it seems that it takes about 3 weeks to change the gut bacteria from changing what you eat. That could be a good thing for dieters. Rather than having to give up what you want forever, you can perhaps have it once a week and it will not destroy your helpful bacteria. As long as you don't eat it all the time.
So, why don't you take a couple months and see if you can improve your gut biota? Take pre- and pro- biotics, yogurt (they all have different strains), kim chee, kombucha, vinegar with mother, miso.... and see if it helps
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I definitely seem to have a problem with regard to calorie counts. They simply aren't right for me. Doing the math never works right. So, for instance, I have had my TEE tested and calculators get me around 1550 burned off per day. So, I set my calories eaten per day to 1000... and don't lose. I know a lot of people like this.
But now there is a growing body of evidence suggesting that if you have a certain type of gut bacteria it could give you a greater extraction of calories in the food you eat, thus leading to more calories taken in. So you eat 1000 calories but extract 1200 cals. https://www.livescience.com/63232-yo...ight-loss.html
So what seems to work for changing you bacteria is eating whole and natural veggies and fruits. A plant based diet. I have to say that is 100% different than how I eat now. There are different theories on this, some say fiber does it, some say change in PH does it, but it seems clear that meat can whipe the gut of "diet" bacteria and also a high fat diet can do it as well in as little as 4 days.
Adding to this is recent studies that have suggested that artificial sweeteners can also whipe the diet bacteria out. There hasn't been a day since I was 15 that I haven't had artificial sweeteners. And they are in so much food that is processed even if they aren't "diet".
Add to that, I don't know a single vegetarian that is fat. Also, diets that aren't meant to be plant based but kind of are because of what they want you to eat (such as volumentrics) do seem to have better results than regular diets. I used to think it was because they were eating less calories but perhaps there is a double effect, less calories and less taken in by your body. So you eat 1000 calories of plant foods and only really absorb 900 cals. https://www.independent.co.uk/life-s...-a7787061.html
This makes a lot of sense for me. The bacteria theory works because you STILL can lose weight on a Keto or a diet plan like Jenny Craig, it is just that if you don't change your bacteria you won't lose as much and could gain it back easily.
The only daunting challenge for me here is that this is a way of eating I really dislike. But perhaps that is the gut bacteria talking.
I highly recommend you read The Plant Paradox by Dr. Gundry. You'll know how to repair your gut after reading that.
So, why don't you take a couple months and see if you can improve your gut biota? Take pre- and pro- biotics, yogurt (they all have different strains), kim chee, kombucha, vinegar with mother, miso.... and see if it helps
Not so sure that works. I have seen information saying that most common probiotics don't really have enough in there to make a serious difference on the idea of weight loss. That they only way is to encourage them yourself via eating goods with fiber.
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I highly recommend you read The Plant Paradox by Dr. Gundry. You'll know how to repair your gut after reading that.
No. Read it. Not going to help me. I think my gut doesn't need repair. In fact if I was a hunter gatherer I would LOVE my gut.
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