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There's really no such thing as too much sodium because the body does know how to regulate and store sodium. Sugar it doesn't know because it is consider toxin to the body so it gets converted to waste into belly fat. People and even mainstream doctors are exaggerating a high salt diet causes health issues. There's no study that shows a high sodium diet leads to heart attack. You need to eat a healthy dose of sodium and I say a min of 3g is needed if your on intermittent fasting.
A lot of people on keto eat a lot of bacon and meat that are loaded with salt but they are not getting enough potassium which is much richer in green leaf veg.
I started keto a few weeks ago and my energy was awful, I couldn't run or exercise. I started added more salt and potassium to my regime and now I'm full of energy and I eat just enough fats and enough protein. I eat a ton of salads with nothing but salt and vinegar. A healthy 6 lb loss in 2 weeks on this regime.
There's really no such thing as too much sodium because the body does know how to regulate and store sodium. Sugar it doesn't know because it is consider toxin to the body so it gets converted to waste into belly fat. People and even mainstream doctors are exaggerating a high salt diet causes health issues. There's no study that shows a high sodium diet leads to heart attack. You need to eat a healthy dose of sodium and I say a min of 3g is needed if your on intermittent fasting.
A lot of people on keto eat a lot of bacon and meat that are loaded with salt but they are not getting enough potassium which is much richer in green leaf veg.
I started keto a few weeks ago and my energy was awful, I couldn't run or exercise. I started added more salt and potassium to my regime and now I'm full of energy and I eat just enough fats and enough protein. I eat a ton of salads with nothing but salt and vinegar. A healthy 6 lb loss in 2 weeks on this regime.
A few weeks ago? I've been plant based since I was a teenager and I'll be 70 this summer. It's not vanity to say that nobody believes me when I tell them I was born in 1950. Not eating animal carcasses makes a huge difference in your health and longevity.
Some people even say that when you eat that crap you're also taking in the fear, terror, despair and betrayal the animal felt. I believe that may be true. Pigs are more intelligent than dogs. Cows are gentle herd animals that form bonds with other cows. Chickens are intelligent and communicative. Fish feel pain.
A few weeks ago? I've been plant based since I was a teenager and I'll be 70 this summer. It's not vanity to say that nobody believes me when I tell them I was born in 1950. Not eating animal carcasses makes a huge difference in your health and longevity.
Some people even say that when you eat that crap you're also taking in the fear, terror, despair and betrayal the animal felt. I believe that may be true. Pigs are more intelligent than dogs. Cows are gentle herd animals that form bonds with other cows. Chickens are intelligent and communicative. Fish feel pain.
Eating less meat can be beneficial but it's not for everyone. A plants only diet is for people who live a very sedentary lifestyle. Because you cannot get good amino acids necessary for muscle and bone regeneration through plants only. Vegans who fell have a longer recovery if they choose to eat only vegan diet for recovery. For people who are athletes, blue collar workers, and those who have an active life style you have to eat living things for their amino acids. I understand people who have an emotional reason not to consume animals but there are living things that are not so intelligent that you can eat such as clams, sea urchin, geoduck. Snails can be farmed and it is perfectly sustainable. And not to mention insects which are the largest inhabitants on earth. So you don't have to eat animals that have some intelligence.
Eating less meat can be beneficial but it's not for everyone. A plants only diet is for people who live a very sedentary lifestyle. Because you cannot get good amino acids necessary for muscle and bone regeneration through plants only. Vegans who fell have a longer recovery if they choose to eat only vegan diet for recovery. For people who are athletes, blue collar workers, and those who have an active life style you have to eat living things for their amino acids. I understand people who have an emotional reason not to consume animals but there are living things that are not so intelligent that you can eat such as clams, sea urchin, geoduck. Snails can be farmed and it is perfectly sustainable. And not to mention insects which are the largest inhabitants on earth. So you don't have to eat animals that have some intelligence.
This is patently false.
You can get everything you need from plants except B12. A B12 supplement does the trick.
I know many people who are vegan and are quite healthy. One is even a body builder and a trainer. Another runs long distances. One of my daughters is vegan and has been for years and she is very active, works out and has a demanding job.
Vegetarian maybe, it's very tough to get COMPLETE nutrition from a vegan diet and vegans generally are weak and frail. They get sick easier and have weakened immune systems. You also cannot get a very usable form of Omega-3 from plants. Sure you can get ALA but it has to be converted and it does so at a very low rate. There are overweight vegans because they consume too many grains and starches. That is not healthy either. This is important... the majority of vegans do it for ethical reasons, NOT health. They apparently will sacrifice their own health for the sake of cruelty to animals. I commend them but they will accomplish nothing, unfortunately.
IMO, a clean source of meat and vegetables is the best diet with the least complications. A paleo diet would fit this description. I happen to like dairy, probably to my detriment but I still like it. The main issue with dairy from cows is the hormones they give the animals and the type of casein that it contains. Good quality eggs are just fine and very healthy. I would even go a step further and many would not like this but organ meat is very healthy and beneficial from a nutrient standpoint.
Vegetarian maybe, it's very tough to get COMPLETE nutrition from a vegan diet and vegans generally are weak and frail. They get sick easier and have weakened immune systems. You also cannot get a very usable form of Omega-3 from plants. Sure you can get ALA but it has to be converted and it does so at a very low rate. There are overweight vegans because they consume too many grains and starches. That is not healthy either. This is important... the majority of vegans do it for ethical reasons, NOT health. They apparently will sacrifice their own health for the sake of cruelty to animals. I commend them but they will accomplish nothing, unfortunately.
IMO, a clean source of meat and vegetables is the best diet with the least complications. A paleo diet would fit this description. I happen to like dairy, probably to my detriment but I still like it. The main issue with dairy from cows is the hormones they give the animals and the type of casein that it contains. Good quality eggs are just fine and very healthy. I would even go a step further and many would not like this but organ meat is very healthy and beneficial from a nutrient standpoint.
Vegan is healthier than paleo or keto. And as long as you take a B12 supplement you are fine.
And the BEST diet is the one that fits in one's lifestyle. There is no one size fits all.
Vegan is healthier than paleo or keto. And as long as you take a B12 supplement you are fine.
And the BEST diet is the one that fits in one's lifestyle. There is no one size fits all.
NOBODY ever said any diet was for everybody, I write in general terms. Healthy is a subjective term. Donuts is vegan, doesn't make it healthy. I know you think that whole grains are healthy, they are not. Comparing whole grains to refined grains is like comparing light cigarettes to regular. They are still not healthy at least not in their present form. You over process something it ceases to be healthy.
Maybe donuts aren't vegan they contain eggs? but you get the point.
As for veganism, MOST do it for ethics, not health. That is a FACT.
NOBODY ever said any diet was for everybody, I write in general terms. Healthy is a subjective term. Donuts is vegan, doesn't make it healthy. I know you think that whole grains are healthy, they are not. Comparing whole grains to refined grains is like comparing light cigarettes to regular. They are still not healthy at least not in their present form. You over process something it ceases to be healthy.
Maybe donuts aren't vegan they contain eggs? but you get the point.
As for veganism, MOST do it for ethics, not health. That is a FACT.
You have zero proof that whole grains are unhealthy. Now when I say whole grains I am talking about minimally processed grains - not baked goods.
And yes, you can be a junk food vegan, but that is NOT what we are talking about either. In fact we are not talking about processed foods at all. You are moving the goalposts to make your point.
Eating less meat can be beneficial but it's not for everyone. A plants only diet is for people who live a very sedentary lifestyle. Because you cannot get good amino acids necessary for muscle and bone regeneration through plants only. Vegans who fell have a longer recovery if they choose to eat only vegan diet for recovery. For people who are athletes, blue collar workers, and those who have an active life style you have to eat living things for their amino acids. I understand people who have an emotional reason not to consume animals but there are living things that are not so intelligent that you can eat such as clams, sea urchin, geoduck. Snails can be farmed and it is perfectly sustainable. And not to mention insects which are the largest inhabitants on earth. So you don't have to eat animals that have some intelligence.
No, not so. There is no evidence for what you're posting and quite a lot which contradicts it. I wish you would stop posting unsupported and prejudicial views for which there is no evidence; somebody may read it and think it's accurate when it's not.
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