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Old 12-01-2019, 06:13 PM
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Awww, Clara, funny--but is it altogether true?

For instance, I adore mushrooms and they are good for us.

I really enjoy yams/sweet potatoes, and as long as they aren't overloaded with butter & brown sugar, they are nutritious.

And I can't get enough garlic--and it's almost like a medicine in its anti-viral properties...

There are some foods that both taste good and are good for us...

I bet you have some favorites, too?
I do have a lot of favorites, that I cook. Like Moroccan chicken, or steamed carrots with a little cinnamon, or broccoli with lemon juice. Steamed red potatoes with fresh dill.

What I really meant to say is, if you don't know what the food is and it tastes delicious, don't eat it.

Like, if you're at a pot luck party and everyone is raving about this dish, nope. Maybe you should taste it, but that's it. Just taste it. It's likely loaded with sugar, fat or salt, likely all 3.

But yes. There are delicious things that are healthy. When in doubt, spit it out.
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Old 12-02-2019, 06:52 AM
 
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I do have a lot of favorites, that I cook. Like Moroccan chicken, or steamed carrots with a little cinnamon, or broccoli with lemon juice. Steamed red potatoes with fresh dill.

What I really meant to say is, if you don't know what the food is and it tastes delicious, don't eat it.

Like, if you're at a pot luck party and everyone is raving about this dish, nope. Maybe you should taste it, but that's it. Just taste it. It's likely loaded with sugar, fat or salt, likely all 3.

But yes. There are delicious things that are healthy. When in doubt, spit it out.
You're so right! Potlucks--and buffets--aren't known for being rich with nutritious foods...our taste buds have been "trained" to go for high-fat, salty and overly-sweet foods...

I find a little sweetness goes a long way and overly sweet no longer appeals so much since I cut way back on sucrose and its kindred sweeteners...

Ad salt?

Most restaurant soups are way too salty for my taste...Can't beat home cooking where we know what's in our food...
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Old 12-03-2019, 06:07 AM
 
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I would avoid eating sugar as much as possible because sugar is addictive. It releases dopamine which gives you that release or soothing or calming effect then make you crave more. Which is why very few people who eats sugar regularly can put a limit on themselves. Most people just indulge on it and get fat doing so and it leads to just about every bad thing with your health if you can't control your sugar tooth.
This has been debunked. Sugar is not addictive. Just another myth perpetuated by the media.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/28330706/
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Old 12-03-2019, 06:20 AM
 
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Sugar isn't newly demonized.

It was written about its harm to our health back in 1972 by Yudkin in his book: Pure, White and Deadly.

But his work and findings on sugar WERE demonized by other nutritionists. Unfairly and incorrectly, as it turns out. He was right. Sugar IS harmful to our health in the amounts we're consuming.

If you're really interested in sugar and its role in nutrition, you'll want to read this article. I found it fascinating:

https://getpocket.com/explore/item/t...=pocket-newtab
There is no difference in weight loss, blood parameters of health, etc. When consuming over 100g sugar intake per day vs. approx 10g... .

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/28330706/
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Old 12-03-2019, 06:23 AM
 
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I've had similar experiences. When I was eating a "healthy" high-carb low-fat diet, I gained weight even with exercise. Once I switched to low-carb I was able to lose weight even without exercise.
You didn't lose weight with high carb because you weren't in a deficit. It's as simple as that. Once you switched to low carb you were now in a deficit. That is why you lost weight. Not because of your change in diet.
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Old 12-03-2019, 06:50 AM
 
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This has been debunked. Sugar is not addictive. Just another myth perpetuated by the media.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/28330706/

That’s an abstract thesis
They tested
“In a cross-sectional study, n = 1495 university students from a variety of faculties were assessed for DSM-related signs of food addiction for particular food categories (YFAS), and, also BMI and negative affectivity.”

That’s really not proof at all.


On the other hand
https://www.healthline.com/health/fo...addictive-drug
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2235907/
https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/he...ugar-addictive

Sugar isn’t the main problem for me, it’s carbs eek, keep that bread and cereal out of the house
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Old 12-03-2019, 01:50 PM
 
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That’s an abstract thesis
They tested
“In a cross-sectional study, n = 1495 university students from a variety of faculties were assessed for DSM-related signs of food addiction for particular food categories (YFAS), and, also BMI and negative affectivity.”

That’s really not proof at all.


On the other hand
https://www.healthline.com/health/fo...addictive-drug
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2235907/
https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/he...ugar-addictive

Sugar isn’t the main problem for me, it’s carbs eek, keep that bread and cereal out of the house
You posted 3 links citing the same study which is also an abstract. The research you posted was done on rats while the research I posted was on humans. Big difference.

“If humans were truly addicted to this one substance (sugar), then we’d expect to hear about “addicts” buying bags of sugar and eating it by the spoonful - but this just isn’t the chase”.

Your problem is that you are not in a deficit.
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Old 12-03-2019, 05:00 PM
 
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You posted 3 links citing the same study which is also an abstract. The research you posted was done on rats while the research I posted was on humans. Big difference.

“If humans were truly addicted to this one substance (sugar), then we’d expect to hear about “addicts” buying bags of sugar and eating it by the spoonful - but this just isn’t the chase”.

Your problem is that you are not in a deficit.

There is plenty of other research that disputes yours but I can’t be arsed to look further so you win
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Old 12-03-2019, 05:28 PM
 
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Anybody watching Bob and Brad. These guys are physical therapists who help regular people with workout and stuff like that. Regular folks might benefit from their experiences.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlUi12b0KYw

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Old 12-03-2019, 07:21 PM
 
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You didn't lose weight with high carb because you weren't in a deficit. It's as simple as that. Once you switched to low carb you were now in a deficit. That is why you lost weight. Not because of your change in diet.
Yes, I was in a deficit because it's hard to overeat on a diet of mainly meat, vegetables, cheese and small amounts of low-carb fruit. But graham crackers, candy, ice cream, etc.? I can get full eating these treats and then keep on until I'm virtually sick. Pretty hard to do that with broccoli.
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