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Old 12-08-2014, 07:39 AM
 
Location: Chapel Hill, N.C.
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With all these breeds and shelters full of cast off or lost dogs, why on earth does anybody need to start breeding "designer" dogs?

Dog Breeds Vulnerable to Extinction in the United States | Psychology Today
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Old 12-08-2014, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Tejas
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With all these breeds and shelters full of cast off or lost dogs, why on earth does anybody need to start breeding "designer" dogs?

Dog Breeds Vulnerable to Extinction in the United States | Psychology Today
You aint cool unless you paid $2k for a mutt with claims of a superdog by the "breeder".
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Old 12-09-2014, 10:13 AM
 
Location: Western NC
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This article is very narrow minded in scope. The AKC is not the only registry in the world. Many of the breeds on the list are very popular in other countries but not so much here. About the only thing they did get right is the fact that many dogs jobs are changing. If a breed is no longer needed for the job it was bred for, there is a better chance that people will stop breeding them. The American Foxhound is one good example. We rarely fox hunt in the US anymore and the sport is loosing popularity in other countries. The Spinoni Italian, however, is a great hunting dog. They are not in high numbers in the US but in Italy they are well loved. To say it is vulnerable to extinction is laughable. They are relatively new in the US and are very slowly growing in numbers. Clumber Spaniels are another European breed that is very slowly gaining a following in the US.
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Old 12-09-2014, 10:38 AM
 
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Define "designer dogs." Just curious....
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Old 12-09-2014, 10:42 AM
 
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I'd rather have a bluetick coonhound than any in the top ten.
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Old 12-09-2014, 11:24 AM
 
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Define "designer dogs." Just curious....
Mutt with a fancy name you pay big money for.
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Old 12-09-2014, 12:46 PM
 
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Define "designer dogs." Just curious....
When somebody breeds two separate breeds to make a "designer' breed which is not recognized by anybody as a distinct breed. Think poodles with Golden retrievers to get curly haired retriever, et cet. Pug and poodle...
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Old 12-09-2014, 01:29 PM
 
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When somebody breeds two separate breeds to make a "designer' breed which is not recognized by anybody as a distinct breed. Think poodles with Golden retrievers to get curly haired retriever, et cet. Pug and poodle...
****-a-poo (Cocker Spaniel and Poodle) from the 70's and 80's and the current Labrdoodle (Labrador Retriever and Poodle) are two examples of "designer dogs." Both "breeds" may be in the process of AKC recognition, but that is a 20-25 year process on the fast track.

The Australian Bulldog is somewhat different in that it involves a designed breeding program, and about 5 breeds of dog to get what looks like an English Bulldog with a tail. The intent was to keep as many traits of the English Bulldog as possible, but eliminate the health issuse associated with the English Bulldog. Dogo Argintino is another example of a breeding program dog. In Russia, there is a guy who bred Jackals and dogs to create the Sulimov dog in Russia - they are used in Airports as bomb sniffing dogs and work without handlers controlling their searches/search areas (saw a fascinating show about how they were developed and how they work the airports in Russia).
Sulimov dog - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I am inclined to think a breeding program like these above are quite different than a designer dog - one is developing a new breed entirely, done with a purpose in mind (health improvements/working breed) the other is capatalizing on popularaty and looks of a two breed combination.

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Old 12-09-2014, 04:05 PM
 
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Our family has an English Shepherd (the original "farm dog", herding dog) recognized by the UKC, and we have a cockapoo...a great dog, very smart and has never shed a hair on anything in his life (Grace, the Eng. Shepherd makes up for that) and Henry, an 11 year old black Labradoodle. Just what is a purebred....Frick and Frack of the same breed and put together by the guy in the country because he needs money? Does that make these dogs better than my "designer" dogs. Nope. These dogs are great in the house, and are great watchdogs, but smart about it. They just don't "yap" at everyone. There are breeds which may be suffering from extinction and you are correct, many, many in shelters which were owned by lazy owners who didn't get them spayed or neutered so they procreate at random. None of these dogs were "bred" on purpose. It would be nice if we didn't judge the type of car or the breed of dog people choose. Just be happy that all these dogs have homes. If there are breeds suffering from extinction, maybe it is just time. Evolution? Choice? who knows.
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Old 12-09-2014, 05:25 PM
 
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Mutt with a fancy name you pay big money for.
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When somebody breeds two separate breeds to make a "designer' breed which is not recognized by anybody as a distinct breed. Think poodles with Golden retrievers to get curly haired retriever, et cet. Pug and poodle...
Yes, and I would add they are often the products of puppy mills rather than random one-off accidental breedings.
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