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Get a roast. PUt it in the oven at a low heat, like 250 degrees for several hours. The end result is very dry meat - from there you can cut it up into little tiny pieces for training treats. Google for the specific instructions - I can't remember them all.
But it's the perfect treat - meat, nothing added. And pretty cheap.
Whole food = unprocessed "people food" like bits of chicken, carrots, eggs, sardines (water not oil), liver (chicken or beef), beef will be healthier for your dogs than a processed biscuit.
BTW, there is no such thing as "people food" and "dog food". There isn't a special animal that comprises "dog food"; it is all the same = food.
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I thought it helped get the point of my question across.
Thank you for the heads up on the grapes.
Pretty ironic that the people food (grapes) isn't really dog food, despite the fact that is indeed, all food.
Twelvepaw - I love the way you put it! Mikala, I get what you meant, and I think twelve did, also.
A hundred years ago there was no such thing as "dog food". Dogs ate leftovers and scraps, and a rabbit if they could catch it. Most dogs in the world today still live like that - scrounging from the garbage dump, or waiting out back of the butcher's shop (or the bakery, or the pizza shop!). Which has a lot to do with why I don't worry about grain-free, although I do make sure grains are not a primary source of calories.
About the only things to worry about are grapes, onions and garlic, and salt. Dogs need salt, just like people, but they don't sweat as much so they don't need as much. Onions and garlic can be toxic (CAN be, not ARE, just like grapes), but that also only occurs for very large amounts - a lot more than you put in your spaghetti sauce, for instance!
Oh, and bad manners . Sometimes dogs getting people food will get it when their people feed them at the table or the like - and get bad manners started!
BTW - good question! There is a lot of misinformation about dog food out there.
What are the thoughts on giving dogs people food? My puppy has been raised within the parameters of our elder dog, and he has a VERY sensitive stomach so all he gets is a dog biscuit once a day.
The puppy (10 mos) doesn't seem to have a sensitive stomach so I don't mind giving him a treat as long as he doesn't beg. He likes fruit (grapes, nectarines, etc.). I do it about once a week so it is not a lot, and I do not want to encourage begging.
Thoughts?
There is no such thing as 'people food'. There is food that is generally good for dogs or not. Dog food is made of a lot of 'people food'. Then there is the individual dog. What is good or not good for that dog.
With the grain free they tend to add more sweet potatoes, fruits and veggies. Personally that seems better than a huge percentage of rice/wheat or corn.
After he achieves full growth I would be more comfortable reducing kibble and adding food that we eat (nothing processed).
IIRC you are vegetarian or vegan? We are weekday vegetarians, and weekend carnivores.
My dog cannot digest potatoes. I don't see how they are more healthy for a dog than rice. Not saying this to argue with you, just discussing.
The potato fad has irritated me even before this dog couldn't digest them. I think it's just money. Potatoes are 'empty carbs' like rice. They are also cheap. I think it's just marketing to say 'grain-free' and charge more, though I do avoid wheat, corn, and soy, which nowadays is very easy. That was step one for the food companies to catch onto things we don't like.
Canidae changed it's formula to include potatoes so now I am on the hunt for a new food. A-holes. LOL! And see, that has to be taking away from the meat content. Since it still has grains. So it would make me mad on that count even if my dog could eat it.
What are the thoughts on giving dogs people food? My puppy has been raised within the parameters of our elder dog, and he has a VERY sensitive stomach so all he gets is a dog biscuit once a day.
The puppy (10 mos) doesn't seem to have a sensitive stomach so I don't mind giving him a treat as long as he doesn't beg. He likes fruit (grapes, nectarines, etc.). I do it about once a week so it is not a lot, and I do not want to encourage begging.
Thoughts?
To discourage begging, never give food unless in the dog's bowl, or handed as part of training. Never from the table. Never a crumb from the table so they learn it will never happen.
My dog that I trained from a puppy, I taught her to be a certain distance from the table when there is food, and as a reward, any left-over that is ok for her to eat went into her bowl. So, she quickly learned that her turn is coming!
No worries. I definitely will not feed him a grape again (he has had two in his life).
My small dogs love banana. Lab won't touch one, but the spaniels look at me like I don't love them anymore if they don't get a bite of banana when I come home from work.
We also keep leftover carrots and green beans for them. Other than that, no people food, and no commercial treats.
My small dogs love banana. Lab won't touch one, but the spaniels look at me like I don't love them anymore if they don't get a bite of banana when I come home from work.
We also keep leftover carrots and green beans for them. Other than that, no people food, and no commercial treats.
Someone mentioned frozen grapes (which I think we have covered is a no no these days) but my dogs favorite summer treat is cubes of frozen canned pumpkin, actually pumpkin and not the spiced pie filling. We freeze it in the small ice cub trays, and give them one or two a day when they are outside. They love it.
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