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Old 08-24-2008, 10:50 PM
 
Location: Tejas
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I am not about to risk my arm going up to a growing snarling dog. Rule of thumb (commons sence) tells me me not to approach that kind of dog, or touch any dog without owners being around.
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Old 08-24-2008, 11:22 PM
 
Location: The Frenchie Farm, Where We Grow 'em Big!
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Sorry. It's not the right one.

Just what we need is a bunch of dog owners shooting other people's dogs.

His family could walk a different route. Contact the owner. Contact Animal Control... And let the law take care of it.

They know that the dog is there.
Sorry, WC

Neither you or I have the right answer. BrianH does! He said in the begining that the AC are spred thin. The owner has not and will not care, as expressed by BrianH. We do not have the answers. BrianH does. He was looking for support. He got it from me.
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Old 08-25-2008, 06:07 AM
 
Location: California
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Good luck Brian! As much as I hate the thought of a dog suffering because of his uncaring owers, you have every right to protect yourself and your family. It is just a matter of time, before this dog hurts someone seriously.
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Old 08-25-2008, 06:42 AM
 
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You should defend yourself no problems with that. Sorry for the dog but as the post said - "stupid dog owners".

I would go ahead and make sure your communications are in writing with animal control are documented and copy the letter to all the insurance agencies in town. They may have more leverage with the homeowner than anybody. I would also send a letter to the dog owner. That way if you do have to do something, you can show your tried to resolve the issue through the appropriate channels.
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Old 08-25-2008, 07:23 AM
 
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Sorry, WC

Neither you or I have the right answer. BrianH does! He said in the begining that the AC are spred thin. The owner has not and will not care, as expressed by BrianH. We do not have the answers. BrianH does. He was looking for support. He got it from me.
Sorry, brikag,

I am supporting him. I'm trying to be the voice of reason.

According to his post, he has made no contact with the owner. Neither has he tried to work it out by peaceful means.

If New Mexico is like you guys describe it, what is stopping the owner of the dog from shooting him?

I have one additional comment... I've learned about dog laws the hard way. I know that irresponsible owners cause most of our problems...

When I was dealing with the thing that I went through, I got a lot of information from a different boards and groups that are working against BSL. From my dealings with different groups, I hate to say it, but I can understand why people have such a bad taste in their mouths about many dog breeds and their owners.

Everything that dog owners do effects all dog owners in today's climate.

If only people who care about THEIR dogs would understand that.

Peace out,

WC

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Old 08-25-2008, 02:21 PM
 
Location: Chicago suburb
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Please do try to contact the owner to see if you can resolve this issue. I realize there are a lot of ignorant people out there, but sometimes letting people know you mean business is enough to take care of the issue. Let the owner know that their dog is harrassing you and your family, that you fear for their safety and will do what ever it takes to protect your family within the confines of the law.

I can understand how scary and aggrivating this situation is and can understand how a person's anger can grow under these circumstances, but I think it would be good to try the least severe intervention first before escalating this to involving guns. God forbid someone other than the intended target gets hit.

I can appreciate your committment to keeping your family safe, but again I think there are things that can be done before resorting to bringing your gun into this.

I also disagree with trying to make friends with the dog. Any dog who is that territorial and aggressive is not going to change his toon fast, especially with tresspassing strangers. This dog sounds very unsocialized and is probably not going to take kindly to a tummy rub by a stranger. With that being said, I have picked dogs up on the street too if I see a stray and the dog is open to being picked up. If they don't seem friendly or open to me approaching, then I leave it to the professionals. I love dogs but I am not going to put myself in that position. It only takes one bad experience to cure you of that romantic notion that all dogs are friendly at the core. Dogs are animals and have their own unique culture, values, and ways about them that we don't always understand. They have their good days and bad days like us. I agree with another poster about not even approaching dogs with their owners unless you ask and then use caution. Not all owners define friendly or well behaved in the same way and dogs aren't always in the mood to meet new people or new dogs. Stay alert and you wont get hurt.
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Old 08-25-2008, 02:52 PM
 
Location: Blackwater Park
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Some of you are going to get bit with your cockiness and I can't say that I would be upset about it.
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Old 08-25-2008, 11:05 PM
 
Location: "The Sunshine State"
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Not me! Animal lovers and Rescuers are the least cocky as you say! We are bull headed when it comes to standing up for, protecting and speaking for the ones who cannot! We can approach a strange dog in ways other people cannot...call it an aura of trust that we expel towards them! Whatever it is, we were born with it and it works! Most men do not have it! Might have to do with a lower IQ thing!
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Old 08-26-2008, 12:00 AM
 
Location: The Frenchie Farm, Where We Grow 'em Big!
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Well BrianH is not born with it I guess. You'll have to ask him about his IQ, though Blondie.
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Old 08-26-2008, 04:28 AM
 
Location: The Great State of Arkansas
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Okay, as I understand it, BrianH said he was blowing off steam and looking for suggestions...this isn't the place to start a debate on IQ or whatever...let's hold this to constructive suggestions on how to best handle the situation, okay? Thanks...
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