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Money is a claim on wealth, not wealth. Taxing it would certainly help since lowering a drug dealers claim on wealth is a good thing.
How is a drug dealer different then Phillip Morris or Anheuser-Busch? Might as well bring the darkside to the table, our society is already pretty much in decay. How much worse can it really get? Integrating these "drug dealers" into the business realm would also serve to curtail the black market activities, and the violence associated with the drug trade. Eric Holder has not interest in allowing guns into the hands of cigarette and alcohol profiteers...
Money is a claim on wealth, not wealth. Taxing it would certainly help since lowering a drug dealers claim on wealth is a good thing.
a drug dealer who lives/works outside the norms of society is highly unlikely to abide by laws that force them to pay taxes. Do they pay income taxes now? So how are you going to get degenerates that have no respect for the system to follow the rules if they can't seem to follow them now?
I love how pro-drug people demand legalization without thinking things through. its not as simple as "hey, drugs are legal now...case closed" You are only asking for a deluge of problems both on society and bureacracy.
a drug dealer who lives/works outside the norms of society is highly unlikely to abide by laws that force them to pay taxes. Do they pay income taxes now? So how are you going to get degenerates that have no respect for the system to follow the rules if they can't seem to follow them now?
I love how pro-drug people demand legalization without thinking things through. its not as simple as "hey, drugs are legal now...case closed" You are only asking for a deluge of problems both on society and bureacracy.
Bwaha, and what do you think will happen when they decide not to pay taxes? Then they deal with the ravenous IRS like the rest of the legitimate business establishments, and get shut down/thrown in prison. Simple solution. Besides, these drug dealers are working outside the "norms of society" because it is their only option to fill the demand for drugs. As long as their is a demand, there will be a supply. If you allow them the option to work within the realm of legality, you can at least recoup lost tax revenue.
Bwaha, and what do you think will happen when they decide not to pay taxes? Then they deal with the ravenous IRS like the rest of the legitimate business establishments, and get shut down/thrown in prison. Simple solution. Besides, these drug dealers are working outside the "norms of society" because it is their only option to fill the demand for drugs. As long as their is a demand, there will be a supply. If you allow them the option to work within the realm of legality, you can at least recoup lost tax revenue.
so when is the last time you saw the IRS knocking on the doors of criminals? Point is....a drug dealer is not going to suddenly work within the boundaries of the law just because they made drugs legal. I don't see drug dealers now filing taxes do you?
How is a drug dealer different then Phillip Morris or Anheuser-Busch? Might as well bring the darkside to the table, our society is already pretty much in decay. How much worse can it really get? Integrating these "drug dealers" into the business realm would also serve to curtail the black market activities, and the violence associated with the drug trade. Eric Holder has not interest in allowing guns into the hands of cigarette and alcohol profiteers...
Nothing really but these vices are just proxies for funding. It just shows us the banking system is corrupt.
a drug dealer who lives/works outside the norms of society is highly unlikely to abide by laws that force them to pay taxes. Do they pay income taxes now? So how are you going to get degenerates that have no respect for the system to follow the rules if they can't seem to follow them now?
I love how pro-drug people demand legalization without thinking things through. its not as simple as "hey, drugs are legal now...case closed" You are only asking for a deluge of problems both on society and bureacracy.
Well I am for land value and monopoly taxes anyway because it has no effect on goods and services.
Anyway the drug aspect does not added to the productive economy is my point.
so when is the last time you saw the IRS knocking on the doors of criminals? Point is....a drug dealer is not going to suddenly work within the boundaries of the law just because they made drugs legal. I don't see drug dealers now filing taxes do you?
Depends who nabs them first, which is usually the DEA or local police. If the catch was big enough, then you may be dealing with money laundering or outright tax evasion. Al Capone was nabbed on money laundering if I'm not mistaken. I imagine the street dealers are working with cash money for the most part, and probably not making much money doing it. Just enough to support their habit and buy a few nice things, cash money. They probably stuff most of their earnings under their mattress. And of course, where does most of the money at the top likely end up? Columbia, Mexico, who knows.
Point I make is, there is a lot of lost tax revenue. Establishing a legal medium for the transactions to take place could put a big dent in the black market trade. How many people are buying bathtub gin or moonshine anymore? It certainly won't solve the problem, but it's better than throwing countless millions and billions away trying to make it go away. That simply will not happen.
so when is the last time you saw the IRS knocking on the doors of criminals? Point is....a drug dealer is not going to suddenly work within the boundaries of the law just because they made drugs legal. I don't see drug dealers now filing taxes do you?
The IRS doesn't knock on a criminals door - local, state and federal law enforcement do; because what they are doing is ILLEGAL, nothing to do with anything in the IRSs' realm.
If certain drugs were legalized, there would be zero need for criminal enterprises to supply the demand of illicit drugs. The drug trade will go by way of alcohol - post prohibition. When was the last time anyone heard of "multi million dollar alcohol smuggling operations"?
The IRS doesn't knock on a criminals door - local, state and federal law enforcement do; because what they are doing is ILLEGAL, nothing to do with anything in the IRSs' realm.
If certain drugs were legalized, there would be zero need for criminal enterprises to supply the demand of illicit drugs. The drug trade will go by way of alcohol - post prohibition. When was the last time anyone heard of "multi million dollar alcohol smuggling operations"?
You don't.
The ringleader of a multimillion-dollar smuggling operation in northern New York was sentenced Monday to 17 years in prison. Larry Miller, of Massena, and five others involved in the tobacco and alcohol smuggling operation were sentenced in federal court in Binghamton. Miller was behind an operation that smuggled nearly $700 million US worth of cigarettes and alcohol through the St. Regis Mohawk Reservation that straddles the U.S.-Canada border.
all I ever hear from the pro-drug/mj people are...just legalize it and tax it. but what I don't hear is the costs associated with doing so. What are the costs to suddenly regulate it? Not to mention all the man hours it will take to come to some sort of agreement on how to regulate not only the production, distribution, and consumption of the product, but the after effects as well. Laws will have to be created to deal with operating while under the influence. At how many drags is a person legally too stoned to operate? And you don't think government agencies like the FDA are gonna get involved? And do you really think large conglomerates like Phillip Morris and RJR are gonna sit by and do nothing? These so called "evil" corporations will be at the front lines producing drugs to replace lost tobacco sales. See, no one ever thinks. They just assume legalize drugs and it will be all better. Patootie it will.
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