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Old 11-18-2014, 11:31 PM
 
Location: Vallejo
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In 1970, about 25 workers per thousand were on SSDI. In 2011, it's 75 per thousand. That is approaching 10% of workers being disabled. That leads me to believe that 2 out of 3 of SSDI recipients are fakers. It is ludicrous on is its face.

How is it that, when most of the hard work, dangerous jobs have vanished from the American economy, and after all the advances that have been made in medical treatment, rehabilitation, etc., the proportion of American workers on disability has tripled in 40 years? Not to mention the efforts of OSHA.

SSDI has become a form of long term unemployment compensation. Peoples job in many industries and many cities just disappeared. The solution is to put these people to work doing the work that is available, i.e. social employment. The answer is not to put them on the shelf, i.e., SSDI.
It's even more fun if you go back to 1960 when it was .5%. Your numbers are a bit off, by the way. It was actually about 5% in 2013. That's still a ten-fold increase, most of which can't be explained by women increasingly being in the workforce and the higher retirement age. SSDI is basically just another welfare program for the marginally employable who can't really compete in the labor market moreso than for actual disabilities. Just another welfare program that's rapidly approaching insolvency, less than two years.

Social Security Disability Beneficiaries Facing 20% Cut in Benefits
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Old 11-19-2014, 06:25 AM
 
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It's even more fun if you go back to 1960 when it was .5%. Your numbers are a bit off, by the way. It was actually about 5% in 2013. That's still a ten-fold increase, most of which can't be explained by women increasingly being in the workforce and the higher retirement age. SSDI is basically just another welfare program for the marginally employable who can't really compete in the labor market moreso than for actual disabilities. Just another welfare program that's rapidly approaching insolvency, less than two years.

Social Security Disability Beneficiaries Facing 20% Cut in Benefits
Sorry about the numbers. But it's plain what you said about it becoming another welfare program. If that 1/2 to 2/3 of the money that's being spent on SSDI as a fraudulent welfare benefit were spent instead in a social employment effort, how much better would the recipients' lives be! And their communities, too.

Instead of teaching a man to fish, we're feeding him fish. How did we forget this?
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Old 11-19-2014, 08:06 AM
 
Location: Hell
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Instead of teaching a man to fish, we're feeding him fish. How did we forget this?


I know of a low income housing building (my neighbor works there) and he said about half of the residents are able bodied young men on SSD. They have bipolar or depression or use a cane when people are watching but don't need it when no one is..those kinds of people. About half are from Puerto Rico and don't speak English either. He is upset because they completely renovated the building and it is very high class looking now...better than our houses actually! lol. These are all men who could work. Half my office has depression or bipolar and they are working full time. It is crazy!
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