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Old 01-20-2015, 02:18 PM
 
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It is interesting that many conservatives, or at least fiscally conservative people who live in suburbs, do not ***** much about their taxes. Most I have met love the suburban city the live in, and enjoy the roads, parks, trails and spacious areas their tax dollars create.

It is worth looking into the factors that make them fiscally conservative, in addition to just disliking tax. In suburbs, you see that your tax is used for you, where it deserves.
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Old 01-20-2015, 02:40 PM
 
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It is interesting that many conservatives, or at least fiscally conservative people who live in suburbs, do not ***** much about their taxes. Most I have met love the suburban city the live in, and enjoy the roads, parks, trails and spacious areas their tax dollars create.

It is worth looking into the factors that make them fiscally conservative, in addition to just disliking tax. In suburbs, you see that your tax is used for you, where it deserves.
By that argument, the conservatives that live in Washington DC should accept higher federal taxes.
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Old 01-20-2015, 03:02 PM
 
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It is interesting that many conservatives, or at least fiscally conservative people who live in suburbs, do not ***** much about their taxes.
Objection! Assuming facts not in evidence.

Are we talking about the same people that want schools, police, fire, museums, et al. to be fee for service so tax dollars aren't used to fund them? Are we also talking about the people that don't think they should pay for public education despite a constitutional requirement to do so?
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Old 01-20-2015, 04:27 PM
 
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I think it is easier to see what your tax benefits fund locally than federally and you often or at least locally we do vote on new bonds/increases
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Old 01-20-2015, 04:58 PM
 
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I think we can all agree that it's easier to see the benefits of taxes (or anything) that are within immediate view, but whether we should base our public policy on that phenomenon is a bit unclear.

"I can't see Russia from my house" = disband the military?
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Old 01-20-2015, 05:36 PM
 
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I think we can all agree that it's easier to see the benefits of taxes (or anything) that are within immediate view, but whether we should base our public policy on that phenomenon is a bit unclear.

"I can't see Russia from my house" = disband the military?
I don't think that explains why surburbanites would complain about taxes in cities.

I think it's easier if your community is mostly people of the same or higher socioeconomic class, all at or above middle. This way, people suspect much less. Less of a perception that some people are taking advantage.
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Old 01-20-2015, 05:58 PM
 
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I don't think that explains why surburbanites would complain about taxes in cities.

I think it's easier if your community is mostly people of the same or higher socioeconomic class, all at or above middle. This way, people suspect much less. Less of a perception that some people are taking advantage.
What people are we talking about exactly and taking advantage of what? The library system? Parks? Zoos? The suburbs of Chicago have higher property taxes than Chicago does because Chicago has a broader tax base, but I don't anything exists to take advantage of in the burbs or the city.
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Old 01-20-2015, 06:26 PM
 
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Objection! Assuming facts not in evidence.

Are we talking about the same people that want schools, police, fire, museums, et al. to be fee for service so tax dollars aren't used to fund them? Are we also talking about the people that don't think they should pay for public education despite a constitutional requirement to do so?
Am very fiscally conservative. Live in Howard County, MD (top10 richest counties per census, top10 places to live per Money magazine).

Don't begrudge my county income tax (3.3%) and relatively high property tax (1.5% ish of assessed value) due to the plethora of parks and excellent schools provided. The last county commissioner failed as part of the Dem gubernatorial bid by losing the county, partly in reaction to some of his more populist (income distribution) plans. Repub in charge now
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Old 01-20-2015, 07:45 PM
 
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Clearly you've never discussed taxes with some of my neighbors. Just sayin'.
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Old 01-20-2015, 08:27 PM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
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My property tax is was $5,500 last year, and the 2015 bill has not come yet but based on the latest valuation notice from the assessor it's likely to go up another $1,000. Having top rated schools, no crime, safe streets and many nice parks and trails make it well worth it. Sure, I cringe when I see how much it has gone up but at the same time my equity is also going up so I'll be clearing more when we sell. It's far more tolerable to see some benefits from my tax dollars.
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