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Old 04-28-2017, 09:37 AM
 
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So your choice of housing is different, but should the need to survive on be free or very very cheap. I mean, we need power, water, gas (heat, cook) without those, we couldnt cook, heat our homes, water to drink. shouldnt least they be free as a need to survive?

 
Old 04-28-2017, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Berwick, Penna.
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So your choice of housing is different, but should the need to survive on be free or very very cheap. I mean, we need power, water, gas (heat, cook) without those, we couldnt cook, heat our homes, water to drink. shouldnt least they be free as a need to survive?
Ever hear of something called a job? They're not all a form of imprisonment, but everybody needs one to make ends meet, and finding and holding it down in a manner that fits your mode of living (and which, BTW, is not as hard as it was two generations ago) is what it's all about.

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Old 04-28-2017, 09:53 AM
 
Location: The Triad
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The living Needs to be Free?
Nothing is free.


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Old 04-28-2017, 10:32 AM
 
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im not talking about living life style, just the basics of needs. Water for example. We need it to survive on, clean, cook, drink. Should be free to your housing. I know we have infrastructure to pay for, but that been paid for long time ago, least 10x. Job is your working for the extras, like house, car, food, fun stuff. But spending 12k a year just on bills such as gas, water, lights, ect to survive puts a dent in your paychecks.
 
Old 04-28-2017, 11:20 AM
 
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So your choice of housing is different, but should the need to survive on be free or very very cheap. I mean, we need power, water, gas (heat, cook) without those, we couldnt cook, heat our homes, water to drink. shouldnt least they be free as a need to survive?
Free? You mean all that stuff should just appear, like manna from Heaven? If not, where would all the free stuff come from?
 
Old 04-28-2017, 12:09 PM
 
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Free? You mean all that stuff should just appear, like manna from Heaven? If not, where would all the free stuff come from?
Well if not free, but cheap enough were you dont have to put off a car note to pay a water bill.. I mean come on, power bill is like 200 a month, water is 75 for 5k gallons. Should be like 50 each, or least have some a qota, first 1500gallons of water is free, first 100kws.. something that can be helpful.
 
Old 04-28-2017, 12:23 PM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
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Water is free, you can catch all of it you like from the rain. If you want it to be delivered to you, clean and pure, under pressure, you have to pay someone to do the work. If you want it hot, you have to pay for the natural gas or electricity, unless you want to store the rain water you caught and let it sit in the sun to warm up. Infrastructure for water was paid for when first installed, but now is aging and has to be replaced as mains leak, or must be increased in size to accommodate more people using them. There is also the ongoing cost of maintenance, filtering and treatment, pumps and electricity to run them to serve homes in hilly areas, people to turn the water on and off as customers move, read meters, produce and collect bills, inspect for leaks or dirty water complaints, high or low pressure.
 
Old 04-28-2017, 12:51 PM
 
Location: california
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Not even animals live free , they must work or die.
All of life requires some personal responsibility ,to the life has no reason to survive.
 
Old 04-28-2017, 01:32 PM
 
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Not even animals live free , they must work or die.
All of life requires some personal responsibility ,to the life has no reason to survive.
It is a viscous lifestyle that monopoly's figure how to charge us for it.
 
Old 04-28-2017, 01:42 PM
 
Location: Vallejo
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So your choice of housing is different, but should the need to survive on be free or very very cheap. I mean, we need power, water, gas (heat, cook) without those, we couldnt cook, heat our homes, water to drink. shouldnt least they be free as a need to survive?
Go get yourself caught committing a crime and you'll get them for free as you won't need a house. Other than that, no. Obviously you know it's not free but you think that someone else should provide for your living expenses because you're, ostensibly, too lazy to do it for yourself.
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