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Old 01-26-2018, 05:28 PM
 
Location: Florida
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I thought this was a great short essay. It really describes America today. I think a lot of people will be able to relate to what this essay is talking about.

It's very sad.

https://eand.co/why-were-underestima...e-be04d9e55235
Excellent observations. I was especially struck by what I did not not know--that in other countries where opioids are readily available, there is nothing like the epidemic here. I knew retirees on fixed incomes have financial issues, but did not realize they were nomads living in cars. Eleven school shootings in 23 days--and the NRA & co. just brush it under the rug like it's nothing because they are terrified they might not be allowed to have their own personal arsenal. It's all about selfishness and greed. That is what is driving too many in this country and, of course, the collapse will come at some point. Empires never get it when they are failing.

The lack of a safety net in this country is also really affecting the quality of life for many. Americans have been so filled with the propaganda of capitalism (U-S-A) -- good, vs. socialism/capitalism (Europe, Scandinavia) bad, that they think everyone can have good jobs and make a lot of money in a system that favors the wealthy and large corporations. When it doesn't happen--crises ensue.

The fact that the US is so low on the indices of all countries' quality of life and happiness, should be a big indicator. The country is now being run by oligarchs, Wall Street hot shots, banks, large corporations, lobbyists, and by a president who favors them all over the average guy.
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Old 01-26-2018, 05:53 PM
 
Location: Spain
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The fact that the US is so low on the indices of all countries' quality of life and happiness, should be a big indicator.
Obviously rankings as nebulously defined as quality of life and happiness should be subject to some skepticism, but I'm curious where the US is ranked so low? Don't get me wrong I'm not doubting you (I have no idea what you read) but some quick googling came up with:

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-cou...rall-full-list
USA #8, right behind Australia and ahead of France and Netherlands.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercer..._Living_Survey
Of the top 51 cities they show 8 are in the United States

OECD Better Life Index
USA #8, behind Iceland and head of Finland and Netherlands

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_...ional_rankings
USA #14, behind Australia and ahead of Ireland


There are about 200 countries in the world, how are rankings like this described as "so low" exactly?
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Old 01-26-2018, 06:00 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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You're not adding any value to this discussion.
Then start a relevant thread, in the proper forum.

This crap belongs in P&OC, not Economics.


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What did the author say that wasn't true? Can you point out something specific? You're still engaging in character assassination.
School shootings happen, because students are schooled in situational ethics, rather than having strong moral and ethical values of right and wrong instilled in them.

This is neither the first opioid epidemic, nor the first drug epidemic in the US. The author displays both gross ignorance and a total absence of knowledge of US History.

Inside the Story of America’s 19th-Century Opiate Addiction


https://www.smithsonianmag.com/histo...ion-180967673/


But in America, there is the catastrophic collapse of social bonds. Extreme capitalism has blown apart American society so totally that people cannot even care for one another as much as they do in places like Pakistan and Nigeria.

"Extreme capitalism" is not responsible for "blowing apart American society", but trains and the interstate highway are responsible for reshaping growth patterns in the US.

As far as Life Expectancy differences between Costa Rica and the US:

...Costa Rica’s overall mortality advantage can be explained largely by two causes of death: lung cancer and heart disease. Lung cancer mortality in the United States is four times higher among men and six times higher among women compared with Costa Rica. Mortality by heart disease is 54% and 12% higher in the United States than in Costa Rica for men and women, respectively.

Exploring why Costa Rica outperforms the United States in life expectancy: A tale of two inequality gradients | Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences

A predatory society doesn’t just mean oligarchs ripping people off financially.

The claim isn't supported by any facts, largely because it is nothing more than the biased belief of the author. Contrary to the author's baseless claim, no one is "ripping people off financially."
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Old 01-26-2018, 06:00 PM
 
Location: moved
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Another important point, related to what lieqiang introduced, is that the particular city, matters at least as much as the overall country. Life in Boston is very different (and presumably of higher quality) than in rural West Virginia. Life in Stockholm is very different than in rural northern Sweden. Life in Moscow is very different than in Magadan.

In some of the highest-ranked countries, there is one city, or a handful of cities, dominating everything. America is very decentralized and variegated. The cultural options available in New York City, differ starkly from those in New York State, 200 miles to the northwest of NYC. In most countries, it's simply a foundational fact of life, that people move to the big-city, for a better life. In America, that is simply not the case.
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Old 01-26-2018, 06:15 PM
 
Location: South Jersey
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author is a dramaqueen nutball
My sentiments exactly.
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Old 01-26-2018, 06:39 PM
 
Location: Ruidoso, NM
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Newsflash, the US has always had oligarchic tendencies.
I agree, but it's becoming more obvious.

Previously we were fortunate in that their prosperity and power depended on the prosperity and freedom of the masses. That is no longer true.
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Old 01-26-2018, 06:46 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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I am non-violent. God cursed me with amazing hands and feet, but unfortunately, a big heart.

I don't own any weapons.

I never said oil will be worthless. An oil shock implies that the price moves drastically in one direction or the other. In this case, the price of crude will be very expensive.

No, it has nothing to do with international stocks.

Look, this is how it works. So you have machines trading against one another and often walking prices up, spoofing, etc, using all sorts of tactics to draw in "dumb money."

It works great in the cyrpto market because there isn't a protection team, so you can see what happens when markets climb up on no volume. But its own nature, it increases volatility.

Why?

Well because low volume walk ups imply that there is limited liquidity at those prices. Right? Meaning that there is no money that is willing to buy at those prices. It also means that the price is subject to rapid drops which can also lead to violent sell offs.

Okay?

So in the broader market this doesn't happen. Why? Because Japan or Switzerland comes in and buys up TRILLIONS of dollars of stocks when there is no additional capital available.

What does this due to the market? Well, it artificially lowers volatility and it keeps prices high.

So what happens when you PULL this money out of the market. Volatility increases substantially and since there is no more demand, the market prices plunge. What commences next is a sell off because there was no true price discovery and there is no excess liquidity to keep the market at those prices.

Does that make sense?

So what will have to happen is these banks will need to continue to engage in QE, perhaps even the FED, or there will be a dramatic market sell off.

As far as your other questions are concerned, clearly you don't know much about automation. While I have no idea how accurate this prediction is, the mean date for technological singularity is 2040. Before singularity occurs, there will be a dramatic re-adjustment in our labor force, as technology will continue to replace human labor capital.

This will eventually leave hundreds of millions and even billions of unemployable people because machines will be more productive and more efficient.

Judging by your comments and others that share your mentality, there will be no universal basic income. Americans are not altruistic. We are individuals. We only care about ourselves.

So what will happen to all those unemployable people?

And yes, Russia and Central Asia have the majority of the world's light sweet crude oil.

Do you not understand what is going on Syria?

Jesus.

Do you not know what the petro-dollar is?

Okay...I don't have time for this.

Brief summary:

Qatar and Iran share the largest gas field in the world in their waters. Qatar planned on building a gas pipeline through Saudi, through Syria, and eventually into Turkey where the crude would be offloaded and sold in USD.

The Qatari's approached Assad with their proposal who rejected it.

Instead, Assad opted for the Iranian deal in which the Iranian's would run a pipeline through Kurdistan and then through Syria, where it would be offloaded into the Mediterranean and sold in non-USD currency.

Well, the US didn't like this, so Assad and his family had to die.

Unfortunately, the Russians have a forward operating base in that location that gives them access to the Mediterranean and also gives them a point of operation in the middle east.

In 2014, Kerry met with the Saudi's to negotiate a production deal. The goal was to produce so much oil that the Russian economy would bleed out.

You guys don't like math, so I did it for you.

You see, the ruble is highly correlated with the broad price of crude. In contrast the USD is highly INVERSELY correlated with the broad price of crude?

Do you understand why?

Well because the VAST majority of international purchases of crude AND other commodities is in USD. Why is this important?

Well, several reasons. One reason is the demand for USD allows the US to fund its programs and spend beyond it's means. It's why nobody cares about the debt ceiling. It doesn't matter as long as the USD is the de-facto petrodollar and reserve currency.

Another reason, which is very important to this discussion, is that again, OIL IS SOLD IN USD. So what does this mean for Russian oil producers?

Well it means they pay their operations in the depreciated ruble, but they sell their oil in the appreciated USD. This is one of the reasons why the Russians are producing so much oil.

They can do math. They understand that the shale revolution is a lie and a ticking time bomb.

But anyway, the US was unsuccessful in removing Russia from Syria. It was important for the US to remove the Russians not only because of the gas deal, but also because it gives the US complete hegemony in the region, which allows them to pursue interests in Iran.

Why is the US interested in Iran?

Well because it allows the US to have access to the 5 central Asian States which, in addition to eastern Russia, have the most light sweet crude in the world.

The US will fail.

There is another option, I suppose. The US will likely try to influence the Balochistan region of Pakistan, but the Chinese are keen on this and are building up a military presence.

Why Is China Building a Military Base in Pakistan, America

I didn't read that article, but just showing what's going on in the world.

Anyway, ultimately, the US will fail.

I wonder if anyone pays attention to anything. How do you guys invest in the market and not know how the market works?
You're funny. Statistics can always be manipulated to tell the story the author wants to convey.

The shale revolution is not a farce. There is more than enough oil in the US and Canada for the next 100 years. The US just became oil independent and is producing a surplus of natural gas, which is now being liquified and sent overseas. This is evidenced by the dozen or so LNG plants in construction along the Gulf Coast.

The Saudis started overproducing oil to try and get American producers to stop fracking. It partially worked but technology has improved and they are now able to frack at even lower price points.

Lower prices wrt Russia was a simple side effect that benefited almost everyone except the Russians.

Nice story though!
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Old 01-26-2018, 06:59 PM
 
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This is an interesting discussion. Maybe the US is on a downward trajectory overall, but I believe it will be in China's best interest to make sure we survive and thrive. We're their biggest customer.

Some people and governments may not like it, but globalism is here. Economically, the world is intertwined and if a player as big as the US fails the whole world will suffer economic repercussions.
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Old 01-26-2018, 10:32 PM
 
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No, I am not hysterical. I am a realest. I use MATH and NUMBERS.

If you can use MATH and NUMBERS to challenge me, I will rethink my positions.
Here's a number for you: SIX.

Six, as in six minutes I'll never get back. That is the six minutes it took me to read the article that contains two numbers, 11 and 23. If you're so keen on using numbers and using math why would you put such credence in an essay that has neither?

Haque comes around, slings some crap against the wall and walks away. Big deal. No analysis, no solutions, no substance. I. Am. Not. Impressed.
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Old 01-26-2018, 11:32 PM
 
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Excellent observations. I was especially struck by what I did not not know--that in other countries where opioids are readily available, there is nothing like the epidemic here. I knew retirees on fixed incomes have financial issues, but did not realize they were nomads living in cars. Eleven school shootings in 23 days--and the NRA & co. just brush it under the rug like it's nothing because they are terrified they might not be allowed to have their own personal arsenal. It's all about selfishness and greed. That is what is driving too many in this country and, of course, the collapse will come at some point. Empires never get it when they are failing.

The lack of a safety net in this country is also really affecting the quality of life for many. Americans have been so filled with the propaganda of capitalism (U-S-A) -- good, vs. socialism/capitalism (Europe, Scandinavia) bad, that they think everyone can have good jobs and make a lot of money in a system that favors the wealthy and large corporations. When it doesn't happen--crises ensue.

The fact that the US is so low on the indices of all countries' quality of life and happiness, should be a big indicator. The country is now being run by oligarchs, Wall Street hot shots, banks, large corporations, lobbyists, and by a president who favors them all over the average guy.
And you still don't know because the author offered no substantiation of his claims. Finland has been rated highest in global standard of living for the past few years but still has a huge opioid problem, we just don't hear about it so much because their population is fewer than four million. Similarly, there have always been hobos living alongside the railroad tracks, why would some not be living in cars today? Sure it's not a great situation but you and the author make it sound as if it's a popular lifestyle for retirees - it's not.

Simply throwing stuff against the wall means nothing, even if some sticks. It's easy to throw things but it's a lot harder to formulate a plan to clean the wall and protect it from future attacks. Haque has done neither.
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