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Old 01-11-2019, 08:34 PM
 
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What does it matter, the discussion isn’t about me, it is about the country.
And you are part of the country, so questions are fair game.

 
Old 01-11-2019, 08:43 PM
 
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Don't feed the troll.

The OP is considered a nutjob even over on the politics forum. Let that sink in.
 
Old 01-11-2019, 08:44 PM
 
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And you are part of the country, so questions are fair game.
Some days op is American, other days a foreigner. Depends on if it took it's meds that day.
 
Old 01-11-2019, 08:47 PM
 
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Don't feed the troll.

The OP is considered a nutjob even over on the politics forum. Let that sink in.
LOL!! That says it all.
 
Old 01-11-2019, 08:52 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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This is getting very desperate. It seems people here must resort to personal attacks rather than discuss the subject.
 
Old 01-11-2019, 08:59 PM
 
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This is getting very desperate. It seems people here must resort to personal attacks rather than discuss the subject.
What's the subject?

Too much time on one's hands?
Mental illness?
 
Old 01-11-2019, 09:01 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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What's the subject?

Too much time on one's hands?
Mental illness?
Why raising the Capital Gains Tax would be good because it would dissuade corporate investment and reliance on the economic success of corporate businesses.
 
Old 01-11-2019, 09:02 PM
 
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Who said anything about the government paying for losses. That would make the problem worse.

And yes corporate investment shouldn’t be the driver of the economy, and there are tools like the CGT that can be used to lessen its influence over economic activity.

Who would ever risk their money to have it taxed 90% with no safety net?



You take away capital gains and there goes retirement for millions. Government would be on the hook to hand feed every retiree. Are you trolling, lol I can't imagine an adult who is able to pay for internet thinks this way.
 
Old 01-11-2019, 09:06 PM
 
Location: Omaha, Nebraska
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Sharing power and sharing respect and social capital are different things.
No, they are not. That is where you err. For group living animals, respect and social capital are the very basis on which real power is built. It’s social capital that puts individuals into positions which give them control of the legal system.

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Some people may produce more and be able to provide more for themselves, some may be famous, etc. but no one should have legal power to control the economic fate of others and control a larger share of freedom than others.
And yet in every society bigger than a hunter-gatherer band, that is the case. And it’s not an accident. Your system does not scale. In any society that grows larger than about 150 people, egalitarianism of necessity is replaced by a more formal hierarchical structure (including some form of legal system), because the informal but VERY strong social controls that rein in people’s worst impulses in a small-scale community break down once that community becomes large enough for some of the members to be strangers to each other.

Any animal that lives in a social group, including humans, does so only because being a part of the group offers more safety than living alone. But that safety comes at a price: there can be conflicts between what is best for the group as a whole and what is best for a particular member of the group, and limitations on resources (food, mates, etc.) lead to competition for power between the group members. The more power an individual holds, the more likely that individual is to survive should hard times fall on the group. This basic biology, and we’re as subject to it as other animals are.

Animals that live in social groups of necessity have their freedom constrained. The lower in the social hierarchy they fall and the larger the group is, the more constraint they will feel. The alternative is leaving the group, but that leads to an early death, and therefore is not a reasonable choice.

Like it or not, with a human population of 7+ billion we’re not going to be reverting to a social system that is only functional in very small tribal groups.
 
Old 01-11-2019, 09:08 PM
 
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Op might be a Russian spy. Making posts that kill brain cells as a way to lower our nation's collective iq.
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