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Old 08-04-2019, 10:55 AM
 
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Old 08-04-2019, 12:52 PM
 
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Yes, absolutely.

There are loads of government, .edu and .org data that support every one of those statements.

For example, the average Hispanic (and black) high school graduate has the reading and math proficiency of the average white 8th grader.
I found your source for that, but it doesn't seem that you read the whole article:

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• Hispanics are in the same position as Italian immigrants early in the century. Recent arrivals swell the low scores for Hispanics. Time will likely help heal the gap for Hispanics, as it did for Italians.
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Old 08-04-2019, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Dessert
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I think it's an immigration problem; too many people from other states crowding in for good jobs and great weather.

Folks in nearby states complain about Californians moving in on them, but it's all part of the same problem. Whatever it is that California has, lots of people want it.

Solution? Other states should make themselves more like California so people want to live there.

For instance, northern states will never have California's weather, but could attract workers with great benefits or childcare or other perks. Of course, they would need to have jobs on offer, too.

Alternatively, California could reduce the perks and lower all wages (not just minimum wage) to get people to leave. Can't do much about the weather.
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Old 08-04-2019, 02:31 PM
 
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Time will likely help heal the gap for Hispanics
Trying to get back on track to the thread of 1980s...Once the 1965 Hart Celler Act was passed, millions of people from poor countries, Asian and Central American moved to the US and by the 1980s and they gained a foothold in California. California's education system went down hill, the immigrants out birthed the native whites (4 to 5 kids per child age bearing woman to 1.9 for whites), and schools got very crowded. Now LAUSD is 80% Hispanics and 9% white. That's a HUGE change. By 2042 the US will be less than 50% white and by 2060, estimates are the US will be 30% white and 50% Hispanic. The US was 90% white in 1960: Think about that. From 90% to 30% in 100 years.

"Time will likely help heal the gap for Hispanics" 2nd and 3rd generation are STILL at or near the bottom of virtually every socioeconomic metric: High school graduation rate, crime rate, square inches of grafitti sprayed, income, net worth, grade point average, SAT score, college attendance, truancy, college degree percentage, STEM representation, inmate population.

30% of English Learners are THIRD GENERATION HISPANICS.

Most Hispanic parents speak Spanish to their children, but this is less the case in later immigrant generations

What does this mean for California and the United States when the US imports millions of low functioning poor people who aren't competitive? Meritocratic China is clapping its hands as the US continues down this failed path.

I wouldn't be surprised if my the end of this century, California (minus key federal land such as military bases) is part of Mexico or is a separate Aztlan country. It will be a peaceful transition as most Americans will be Hispanic and since Mexicans are taught in school that California was stolen from Mexico in 1848, there will be no objection. This is why Mexicans have no moral issues with crossing a border they believe is invalid in the first place.
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Old 08-04-2019, 04:15 PM
 
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Your information is old and obsolete. Asians have passed Hispanics in immigration flow some time back. The main flow of economic refugees from Mexico occurred during the 90's as a a result of NAFTA. The follow-on immigration wave in the 00's was primarily due to the re-unification of families.
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Old 08-04-2019, 05:12 PM
 
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Asians have passed Hispanics in immigration flow some time back.
China, India, Philippines, Vietnam are Asian. There's Jamaica and Haiti (another winner). The rest are Hispanic.

Looks pretty close.

And these are just the legal ones:

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Old 08-04-2019, 05:23 PM
 
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Trying to get back on track to the thread of 1980s...Once the 1965 Hart Celler Act was passed, millions of people from poor countries, Asian and Central American moved to the US and by the 1980s and they gained a foothold in California. California's education system went down hill, the immigrants out birthed the native whites (4 to 5 kids per child age bearing woman to 1.9 for whites), and schools got very crowded. Now LAUSD is 80% Hispanics and 9% white. That's a HUGE change. By 2042 the US will be less than 50% white and by 2060, estimates are the US will be 30% white and 50% Hispanic. The US was 90% white in 1960: Think about that. From 90% to 30% in 100 years.

"Time will likely help heal the gap for Hispanics" 2nd and 3rd generation are STILL at or near the bottom of virtually every socioeconomic metric: High school graduation rate, crime rate, square inches of grafitti sprayed, income, net worth, grade point average, SAT score, college attendance, truancy, college degree percentage, STEM representation, inmate population.

30% of English Learners are THIRD GENERATION HISPANICS.

Most Hispanic parents speak Spanish to their children, but this is less the case in later immigrant generations

What does this mean for California and the United States when the US imports millions of low functioning poor people who aren't competitive? Meritocratic China is clapping its hands as the US continues down this failed path.

I wouldn't be surprised if my the end of this century, California (minus key federal land such as military bases) is part of Mexico or is a separate Aztlan country. It will be a peaceful transition as most Americans will be Hispanic and since Mexicans are taught in school that California was stolen from Mexico in 1848, there will be no objection. This is why Mexicans have no moral issues with crossing a border they believe is invalid in the first place.
Only in your dreams, buddy.
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Old 08-04-2019, 07:02 PM
 
Location: California
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I grew up in the Bay Area and was in my early 20's at the start of the 1980's. It was the best time to be here IMO. There were problems we had to navigate around of course, there always is, but jobs and housing and living a pretty good life were there for the taking in most cases.
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Old 08-04-2019, 07:03 PM
 
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housing and living a pretty good life were there for the taking in most cases.
Don't forget the 18% mortgage rates though....
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Old 08-04-2019, 08:30 PM
 
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China, India, Philippines, Vietnam are Asian. There's Jamaica and Haiti (another winner). The rest are Hispanic.

Looks pretty close.

And these are just the legal ones:

There are a lot of winners among the immigrants. Lot of Indians in the banking and IT industries, Chinese as well. Lot of African, Caribbean, Asian, and Hispanic immigrants working in the healthcare field. 30 percent of the doctors are foreign. A lot of the health care aides are foreign nationals. A lot of the construction people are Hispanic.
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