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Old 04-14-2020, 10:52 AM
 
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I invite all of you to read the book "21 Lessons for the 21st Century"; specifically, the chapter which addresses the "useless society". I fear, in too many instances, we're already there; hence, the prospect of infinite UBI or unlimited welfare benefits.
Let me put on my Carnac the Magnificent hat and guess...

The "useless society" is some vast majority that just wants to lay around and not work, so giving them a dime just reinforces their laziness. You know, thieves from good hard-working Americans.

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Old 04-14-2020, 11:06 AM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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The biggest thieves are wall street bankers and ceos.
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Old 04-17-2020, 05:14 PM
 
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The biggest thieves are wall street bankers and ceos.
So what do you think of my acquaintance who 35 years ago with a suitcase, a car, about $3,500 and a good idea opened a finance/insurance company that now employees 10,000+ people? As CEO he went without pay in most of 2008, all of 2009 and some of 2010. He's doing much the same now.
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Old 05-13-2020, 02:54 PM
 
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I don't like EU but, for this time, I'm glad that our comunist goverment will be not able to print money, so there will be no permanent basic income, that is the name they gave to the money they are going to throw to their new voters who comes from africa and south america, so the spanish *******s who still believe in them don't get angry.
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Old 05-13-2020, 10:34 PM
 
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So what do you think of my acquaintance who 35 years ago with a suitcase, a car, about $3,500 and a good idea opened a finance/insurance company that now employees 10,000+ people? As CEO he went without pay in most of 2008, all of 2009 and some of 2010. He's doing much the same now.
What does Warren think about a UBI?
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Old 05-14-2020, 10:56 AM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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I don't like EU but, for this time, I'm glad that our comunist goverment will be not able to print money, so there will be no permanent basic income,
Basic income can be funded without printing money. Also UBI isn't a communist idea communists hate it since it props up capitalism.
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Old 05-14-2020, 01:17 PM
 
Location: On a Long Island in NY
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So what do you think of my acquaintance who 35 years ago with a suitcase, a car, about $3,500 and a good idea opened a finance/insurance company that now employees 10,000+ people? As CEO he went without pay in most of 2008, all of 2009 and some of 2010. He's doing much the same now.
Your leaving out the part about how he had millions in savings and not taking a salary had no impact on him, his family, or his quality of life. In the real world, normal people can't go without income for 3 years.
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Old 05-15-2020, 11:24 AM
 
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Some might and some won't thats life. Also everyone gets it so the incentive to work is still there. Welfare fails because it is taken away when people try to improve themselves UBI fixes that issue.
welfare fails because when it's not used as a stop gap it encourages people not to work, to pump out more kids, to teach those kids to do the same thing and you end up with uneducated unskilled generations of families on welfare.
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Old 05-15-2020, 12:33 PM
 
Location: Boston
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I won't be around when it's time to pay the piper for all of this "free money". But if you're under 50 you will be. Buckle up. Got my stimulus check, I'll take another $1,000 a month. Those nice people in the federal government have been sending me over $9,000 a month for the last 13 years in pension checks, gimme more! Enjoy!
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Old 05-15-2020, 01:26 PM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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welfare fails because when it's not used as a stop gap it encourages people not to work, to pump out more kids, to teach those kids to do the same thing and you end up with uneducated unskilled generations of families on welfare.
Right so we should just do UBI since everyone gets it no means testing.
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