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Old 01-28-2009, 05:00 PM
 
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Old 01-28-2009, 05:06 PM
 
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Well if things do get worse, I know one man that will be smiling

Jimmy Carter
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Old 01-28-2009, 05:09 PM
 
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Who do they pay to format the document? It's very unpleasing to the eye. I could make that look a thousand times better for free. That's probably why nobody is reading it.
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Old 01-28-2009, 05:18 PM
 
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I looked at the first 100 pages and I gave up... anyone care to summarize it?
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Old 01-28-2009, 05:24 PM
 
Location: USA
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$650 million for dtv boxes? seriously...
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Old 01-28-2009, 05:24 PM
 
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Who do they pay to format the document? It's very unpleasing to the eye. I could make that look a thousand times better for free. That's probably why nobody is reading it.
The congress doesn't even read it. Most of this gets pushed through the government so fast.

Often times they add a lot of shady stuff in the bill as well.

For example, the no child left behind bill allowed military recruiters to get access to the phone records of all students. That is why they call and set up meetings with your kids to sign them up as fast as possible before they can even vote, smoke, drink or have sex legally.
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Old 01-28-2009, 05:42 PM
 
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I've heard only about 75% is really to stimulate the economy, the rest is just pork and ear markts. I would be suprised about that 75%. Some of what I have read about - condoms for schools (since removed after complaints), funding for arts programs, $600 million for lawn care for the DC mall area (I think that was removed as well after complaints), updating the government car fleet (why can't they just drive crappy old cars like everyone else does), and lots of millions, a $10 million here, $20 million there, to various government programs.
They make those bills 100 pages long on purpose, so these earmark bills hide in the text.
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Old 01-28-2009, 05:44 PM
 
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I've heard only about 75% is really to stimulate the economy, the rest is just pork and ear markts. I would be suprised about that 75%. Some of what I have read about - condoms for schools (since removed after complaints), funding for arts programs, $600 million for lawn care for the DC mall area (I think that was removed as well after complaints), updating the government car fleet (why can't they just drive crappy old cars like everyone else does), and lots of millions, a $10 million here, $20 million there, to various government programs.
They make those bills 100 pages long on purpose, so these earmark bills hide in the text.
Exactly. 75% going to stimulate the economy? Your an optimist. I believe other government programs are only 40% effective. The rest goes to special interests and government employees (among the other wasteful expenses).
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Old 01-28-2009, 05:45 PM
 
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I'm ok with a very long document, but come on', a freshman college student with extremely limited knowledge of Microsoft Word could come up with a better-looking document than that.
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Old 01-28-2009, 05:51 PM
 
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It is CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN.

Right?

Ruh roh...
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