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Old 02-23-2009, 04:10 PM
 
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Looking back in U.S history, a man use to build his own home with is bare hands. Fast forward today, a man/woman does everything he or she can to get into huge debt for years in order to say; "I own a home" that was possibly built ( if it is newer) by foreign hands; what happened? Thoughts?
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Old 02-23-2009, 04:12 PM
 
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Looking back in U.S history, a man use to build his own home with is bare hands. Fast forward today, a man/woman does everything he or she can to get into huge debt for years in order to say; "I own a home" that was possibly built ( if it is newer) by foreign hands; what happened? Thoughts?
It became fashionable to push paper, grow fat and expect something for nothing.
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Old 02-23-2009, 04:19 PM
 
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Cause the homes that people want are bigger, more complex, and greater resources than any one person can usually do themselves... If you want to build a smaller log home, you can do it but most people won't like it... sitting by kerosene lamps and closet-size room is not my idea of a "home"... So if we want bigger and better homes, its almost always through debt... so it comes down to choice... debt or an ugly home... mind you, your neighbors already made a decision to go into debt and get a nicer home... what are you going to do? Sit on a compost? Or get a flushable toilet? I would opt for the toilet even if it means debt... the finer things in life aren't free... that's what happened...
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Old 02-23-2009, 06:06 PM
 
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The world tends to progress..! If you would like everything to stay the same way it was in 1900, you would find some of our modern inventions, and modern way if thinking, isn't so bad after all...
We all pay the price for progress, in different ways. We have to take the bad with the good...
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Old 02-23-2009, 06:22 PM
 
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First, not everyone built their own homes. THey had builders and sub's back in the 1700's. Now, many more people back then built their own homes than today for a host of reasons:

* They had to in many cases as there were not people to help.

* Many had no money at all and if you had a few tools, you could slap something together- with no electricity, no plumbing, no foundation, no interior walls, no paint... They were easier to build and there were no regulations.

* We were substantially more rural back then and more people grew up on farms learning those skills.

And so on and so forth.

Today, houses have a ton of requirements to adhere to and they are substantially more complex. It's not easy to learn to build a house from scratch. Very few learn how to and do it right.

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Old 02-23-2009, 06:38 PM
 
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Cause the homes that people want are bigger, more complex, and greater resources than any one person can usually do themselves... If you want to build a smaller log home, you can do it but most people won't like it... sitting by kerosene lamps and closet-size room is not my idea of a "home"... So if we want bigger and better homes, its almost always through debt... so it comes down to choice... debt or an ugly home... mind you, your neighbors already made a decision to go into debt and get a nicer home... what are you going to do? Sit on a compost? Or get a flushable toilet? I would opt for the toilet even if it means debt... the finer things in life aren't free... that's what happened...

Thanks for the reply..... As far as ugly, I have seen some beautiful log homes on some pretty pristine land...
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Old 02-23-2009, 06:44 PM
 
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The world tends to progress..! If you would like everything to stay the same way it was in 1900, you would find some of our modern inventions, and modern way if thinking, isn't so bad after all...
We all pay the price for progress, in different ways. We have to take the bad with the good...

Yes of course (and I'm not debating you) but as we move into the future I'm not seeing that everybody gets to benefit in the creation of wealth.

I know the report is on the net somewhere but the average wages have not kept up with the average cost of living and due to this fact people are hardly even home anymore to enjoy there family let alone many of the products that they buy.
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Old 02-23-2009, 06:48 PM
 
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Yes of course (and I'm not debating you) but as we move into the future I'm not seeing that everybody gets to benefit in the creation of wealth.

I know the report is on the net somewhere but the average wages have not kept up with the average cost of living and due to this fact people are hardly even home anymore to enjoy there family let alone many of the products that they buy.
Stick around... houses are becoming more affordable all the time.
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Old 02-23-2009, 06:49 PM
 
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First, not everyone built their own homes. THey had builders and sub's back in the 1700's. Now, many more people back then built their own homes than today for a host of reasons:

* They had to in many cases as there were not people to help.

* Many had no money at all and if you had a few tools, you could slap something together- with no electricity, no plumbing, no foundation, no interior walls, no paint... They were easier to build and there were no regulations.

* We were substantially more rural back then and more people grew up on farms learning those skills.

And so on and so forth.


Today, houses have a ton of requirements to adhere to and they are substantially more complex. It's not easy to learn to build a house from scratch. Very few learn hot to and do it right.






So, with your knoledge, is it worth it in 2009 to try and build your own small 1 story home??

BTW, I do know my grandpa build an addition on his home and it worked out great; this may be another option; to buy a small house and add on to it at a latter date.
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Old 02-23-2009, 09:59 PM
 
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Thanks for the reply..... As far as ugly, I have seen some beautiful log homes on some pretty pristine land...
I am not talking about modern log homes, they require builders... I am talking about back-in-the-day-of-Lincoln era of log homes... you know log homes the size of your closet... you can build that... anything else is going to need a team of people to build... as well as heavy machinery... something you aren't likely to have...
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