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No I'm not. 1 You're interpreting through your own anti-rich lens. 2 Re-read what you posted in your second post: "....refutes frequent claims that rich folks are the ones supporting our economy......". There is a difference between compliance and the point you're trying to make. 3 No, it doesn't, only in your mind with your particular sense of aggrievement that any one who makes more money than you has to be a crook.
Semantics.
Bottom line: There are wealthy folks not paying what they should be paying.
All I hear on this board is "the rich pay all of our taxes!!" No, they do not. They pay some of our taxes, but not all of what they should be paying.
Bottom line: There are wealthy folks not paying what they should be paying.
All I hear on this board is "the rich pay all of our taxes!!" No, they do not. They pay some of our taxes, but not all of what they should be paying.
Why is that hard for you?
Not hard at all, what's hard is trying to make sense of what you're saying. You're trying to make a political point that the "rich" aren't taxed enough by using an article about compliance.
Law states "pay X% of your income" + Person does not pay that amount = Noncompliance.
Noncompliance = not paying what they should be paying. It's not about "not being taxed enough", it's the simple fact that they're not paying what they should be paying. If they owe $500,000 yet pay $100,000, they didn't pay what they were supposed to pay.
Bottom line: There are wealthy folks not paying what they should be paying.
All I hear on this board is "the rich pay all of our taxes!!" No, they do not. They pay some of our taxes, but not all of what they should be paying.
Why is that hard for you?
It's hard because the data does not support that statement.
"The nearby chart shows that the top 1% of taxpayers, those who earn above $388,806, paid 40% of all income taxes in 2006, the highest share in at least 40 years. The top 10% in income, those earning more than $108,904, paid 71%. "
Because of our complicated tax code, there are more opportunities for people with more income from a greater variety of sources to commit tax fraud than there are for people who earn paycheck from one employer who deducts taxes. It makes sense then that when there is more opportunity to commit fraud, there are more people who commit fraud. This in no way implies that rich people are less moral than poor people.
Law states "pay X% of your income" + Person does not pay that amount = Noncompliance.
Noncompliance = not paying what they should be paying. It's not about "not being taxed enough", it's the simple fact that they're not paying what they should be paying. If they owe $500,000 yet pay $100,000, they didn't pay what they were supposed to pay.
It's easy. So easy, a caveman could do it.
But that's not the point you've been trying to make. Your point, I think from your meanderings, is that the 'wealthy' are less moral or something.
It's hard because the data does not support that statement.
"The nearby chart shows that the top 1% of taxpayers, those who earn above $388,806, paid 40% of all income taxes in 2006, the highest share in at least 40 years. The top 10% in income, those earning more than $108,904, paid 71%. "
Because of our complicated tax code, there are more opportunities for people with more income from a greater variety of sources to commit tax fraud than there are for people who earn paycheck from one employer who deducts taxes. It makes sense then that when there is more opportunity to commit fraud, there are more people who commit fraud. This in no way implies that rich people are less moral than poor people.
As a personal note, I would rather give more credence to a report that the IRS willfully avoided publishing (the MSN Moneycentral article I posted) over a chart that they threw together to try and debunk Obama ( the Wall Street Journal link you posted ). The IRS does not want true transparency into the tax situation. To do so is to effectively guarantee that tax reform is right around the corner - and depending on which way that dog lies, could mean a lot of highly paid IRS chaps losing their nest eggs.
Be Careful, Even IRS Employees Are Capable of Tax Fraud (http://ezinearticles.com/?Be-Careful,-Even-IRS-Employees-Are-Capable-of-Tax-Fraud&id=2174714 - broken link)
IRS is a dirty shop, period. I'm not absolving them of anything nor am I putting lower class on a pedestal. I'm simply stating that, if your tax rate is 30%, pay 30%. While that applies to all equally, the rich are even more critical, because if they would pay what they owe, we'd likely have less increases.
Bottom line: There are wealthy folks not paying what they should be paying.
All I hear on this board is "the rich pay all of our taxes!!" No, they do not. They pay some of our taxes, but not all of what they should be paying.
Why is that hard for you?
They still pay a large per centge of the federal taxs and in many cases local and state taxes. In fact every once in a while there is a estmate of just what the federal government would take in if all income was reported and its huge.You have to remember that just like everything else that incomne tax isn't the only federal tax paid which is why the top 10% pay overwheming the largest share of taxes.You statement is only correct in that you say ALL the taxes which I have never heard before in the forums. What they should bne paying is the question no doubt but that applies to evryone really. amny pay no taxes that are noit rich and some even get mnoey returned when they paid nothing.That is why a falt tax with no deductions IMO is fair and is supported by more and more people.
I don't see what the big deal is here. If someone wants to break the law then thats up to them. They are the ones who will get in trouble for it. Why worry about what someone else makes or how much taxes they pay? Worry about yourself.
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