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Old 03-21-2013, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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I may have had an apathetic nature while in high school, but at least I am optimistic about college and my future. I know plenty of people who are not.
I hope your optimism lasts, but based on your past I am not entirely convinced. What happens when you have to take classes that you don't like in college?

You spent much of your original post complaining about the uselessness of the material taught in high school, but the thing is, you don't know what need to know. As I get older, I am constantly amazed at the amount of information and the skills I learned in high school that has relevance in my life now.

Here is an analogy: during your life, you will need all sorts of tools. You spend your educational career filling your toolbox with those tools so that you can use the tools as needed. You never know which tools you will need to use on any given day, but it is better to have a tool and not need it, than to need a tool and not have it.
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Old 03-21-2013, 09:40 AM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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He also coined the pharade "Dance like there's nobody watching."
Sorry....that should have been "phrase". Too late to edit.
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Old 03-21-2013, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Brentwood, Tennessee
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Hi all,

I'm reading through everyones thoughts on education; especially at the high school level. Me and my friends who are trying to do something about it would like your feedback. We are building a company that intends to motivate students to excel. The idea is to incentivize learning so students get instant feedback as they go through school and complete assignments.


We have a survey that we are conducting to find out if teachers and parents would be interested.

They are really brief (9-10 questions).

Responses to these questions will shape what the program will do so please be honest and thoughtful.

Thank you all in advance for helping us make education a priority for kids again.

Parents

Parent Interest Form Survey

Teachers

Admin/Educator Incentive Platform Interest Survey
Are you in college??
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Old 03-21-2013, 12:58 PM
 
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Yes I'm a student at UIC writing a business plan for this potential venture.
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Old 03-21-2013, 05:28 PM
 
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What good is it to brag about passing standardized multiple choice tests when reality shows American education is producing adults that are actually less educated than the generation before them ?

Life doesn't consist of scantron sheets and multiple choice questions.
Instructions are not read to you and repeated and your forms checked over for completeness.

College statistics should be a wakeup call to K-12 but it's not.
All we hear is about how many apply to college each year.
But the eye opening statistics is how many don't make it to the end.
By any measure you want, some schools are wildly successful. Want to know our college acceptance rate? College graduation rate? Graduate school rate? Whatever you like it will be above and beyond the norm. Because we are able to offer a style of education much more on par with that found elsewhere, like Singapore.

Want to know how to improve education? Start by looking at the schools that are working, well.
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Old 03-21-2013, 06:56 PM
 
Location: Paradise
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Want to know how to improve education? Start by looking at the schools that are working, well.
What would you say the schools that are working well are doing? Do you have any examples of schools that are working well so that we can examine it?
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Old 03-21-2013, 07:26 PM
 
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Wrong about what? How good many of the schools are in my state? Especially the ones in my district?

Uhm no. We have 100% of our students pass the state exams EVERY year. Even our kids with IEPs and 504s.

Wrong about the power of GOOD tracking and intense differentiation? Nope, the proof is in the pudding again.

About our inability to enact that system on a larger scale? Well it hasn't been done yet.

What exactly was "wrong" in the post you quoted?
I don't presume to speak for Stepka, but I believe s/he was saying that you were wrong that nobody wants to hear about the successes. I agree with that sentiment. I love hearing about your school. I'm very glad that your school exists for those students who want that kind of experience. I wish I had had the chance to attend a school that allowed me to soar. I am so glad that you decided to stay there.

If I were at a school that supported teachers, I might stay. Instead, I'm headed to an IT fair tomorrow to start investigating summer jobs so that I can start my new career. I feel guilty for abandoning my students, but I can't conscience being a part of the fraud any longer, and I won't be able to succeed in fighting against it. Your stories help me have faith that there are still some people around who actually want public school students to get a quality education.
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Old 03-21-2013, 07:48 PM
 
Location: Southern Illinois
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Wrong about what? How good many of the schools are in my state? Especially the ones in my district?

Uhm no. We have 100% of our students pass the state exams EVERY year. Even our kids with IEPs and 504s.

Wrong about the power of GOOD tracking and intense differentiation? Nope, the proof is in the pudding again.

About our inability to enact that system on a larger scale? Well it hasn't been done yet.

What exactly was "wrong" in the post you quoted?
Sorry I wasn't more clear. . .

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But no one wants to hear from those who are successful.
I for one would like to know how you all did it and with what kind of budget. If you've made a thread about it, please direct me there and if you haven't started a thread yet, I wish you would.
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Old 03-22-2013, 04:20 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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By any measure you want, some schools are wildly successful. Want to know our college acceptance rate? College graduation rate? Graduate school rate? Whatever you like it will be above and beyond the norm. Because we are able to offer a style of education much more on par with that found elsewhere, like Singapore.

Want to know how to improve education? Start by looking at the schools that are working, well.
Please start a thread and tell us.
Me, I'm in no position to change the rules.
I give my feedback and I offer suggestions.
But those in power have their agendas and plans and there's no stopping them.
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Old 03-22-2013, 06:54 PM
 
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if you don't mind me asking, what state do you hail from?
nj
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