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Old 02-09-2015, 12:22 PM
 
Location: Heart of Dixie
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My English is gooder than most folks.
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Old 02-09-2015, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Shawnee-on-Delaware, PA
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"My wife, my family, and I all speak English pretty well." What's up with the me?
Good catch!
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Old 02-09-2015, 06:41 PM
 
Location: Washington state
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I go by what I learned in German (and Russian and French and Spanish). If the case is nominative, it's "I". If the case is accusative or dative, it's "me". The accusative and dative cases are made by putting "with, by, to" and other words with your pronoun. So it's "You and I are going to the store.", but "He gave the candy to Fred and me.". Come to think of it, I learned more about English grammar studying other languages than I ever did in English class. That's weird.
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Old 02-09-2015, 10:21 PM
 
Location: near bears but at least no snakes
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I go by what I learned in German (and Russian and French and Spanish). If the case is nominative, it's "I". If the case is accusative or dative, it's "me". The accusative and dative cases are made by putting "with, by, to" and other words with your pronoun. So it's "You and I are going to the store.", but "He gave the candy to Fred and me.". Come to think of it, I learned more about English grammar studying other languages than I ever did in English class. That's weird.
I found an old diary that I kept in 7th grade and was appalled by my grammar. "Me and him walked home from school together."

I must have learned proper English from my strict 8th grade teacher who had us writing thank you notes and diagramming sentences.

But, just as you mentioned above, I didn't REALLY understand English until I studied another language and then it was like a light bulb going off in my head. I learned Latin. Bingo! It all made sense to me and English grammar was something that was suddenly easy to understand.
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Old 02-09-2015, 10:22 PM
 
Location: Heart of Dixie
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...Come to think of it, I learned more about English grammar studying other languages than I ever did in English class. That's weird.
That's because you have to understand the structure of your primary language to learn the structure of another.
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Old 02-10-2015, 08:38 AM
 
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"My wife, my family, and I all speak English pretty well." What's up with the me?
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You probably speak English better than I.
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Old 02-12-2015, 10:37 AM
 
Location: Limbo
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I speak real good.

For real, I think my vocabulary is above average, but I tailor my words to the company in which I'm speaking to. In the presence of idiots, I speak like a 5th grader, etc.
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Old 02-12-2015, 02:43 PM
 
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That's because you have to understand the structure of your primary language to learn the structure of another.
For a lot of us it's easier to learn the structure of another language. At least the structure is taught rather than just absorbed the way our native language is. After we understand the structure of the other language, the structure of our own language falls into place and makes sense.
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Old 02-15-2015, 11:27 AM
 
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I cat spel to god u undetan? It harde.
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