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Old 07-05-2015, 03:43 PM
 
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I have a vast variety of knowledge in many fields yet I don't have a college degree (though I have dabbled in community college), and it annoys me when people assume I'm uneducated or lack skills.
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Old 07-05-2015, 03:56 PM
 
Location: southwestern PA
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And what are you doing to overcome being annoyed?

IMHO, the things you mention - knowledge, education and skills - are quite different. You can have much knowledge AND be uneducated, for example. I know skilled people that lack knowledge, etc.
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Old 07-05-2015, 04:12 PM
 
Location: La Jolla, CA
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I am well educated, but I employ people without degrees and don't have any preconceived notions. The only people I have a problem with is people without degrees, who for whatever reason, nitpick people who have them. Respect is a two way street and all of that.
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Old 07-05-2015, 08:37 PM
 
Location: midwest
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No, I encounter too many dummies with degrees.

I find this video amazing:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0wk4qG2mIg

I could have explained the seasons when I was in grade school, but not because it was taught at my school. It is as though our schools are designed to maintain controlled ignorance and kill curiosity. So many people with degrees are actually boring.

psik
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Old 07-05-2015, 08:51 PM
 
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No college degree. The education I received that helped me to get my job came from my 8 years in the Navy working in the engine room of a steam driven ship. Now work at a hospital's boiler room. On nights and weekends there is only one of us to cover the whole hospital. We're responsible for the entire hospital's HVAC, medical gas, water, fire alarm, elevators, and first responders for non-medical emergencies (fire, flooding, elevator entrapment, etc). Lot of responsibility for one person to cover an entire 10 floor hospital with 5 wings and surrounding buildings owned by the hospital. I've had a nurse tell me she's responsible for 5 patients. I told her I'm responsible for 5 buildings including the main hospital and yes, people can potentially die if I did my job wrong or not at all.
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Old 07-06-2015, 07:46 AM
 
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I don't think most college-educated people do this. At least, it hasn't been my experience. I do see a lot of people who suffer from a lack of self-confidence because they don't have a degree "I'm not likely to get a better job/make more money because I never finished college." This for people who having years of experience in their non-technical field, so it really doesn't matter as much as they think.
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Old 07-06-2015, 12:00 PM
 
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My husband has no degree (he started at UCI, but did not graduate), but he is highly skilled, owns a small business, and we're doing quite well in the very high COL area of Orange County, CA. No one ever assumes that he lacks skills. I suppose there are a few who might look down on him for being "undereducated," but I wouldn't know who they are because no one has ever said anything like that. Yes, if that happened it would be very annoying.
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Old 07-06-2015, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Middle America
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What is your definition of "educated?"

Is it different than "vocationally trained?" or "have obtained hands-on professionally relevant experience?"

To some, "education" is synonymous with having completed a prescribed course of academic study.

"Uneducated" and "lacking skills" are two different things.
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Old 07-06-2015, 12:08 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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I am well educated, but I employ people without degrees and don't have any preconceived notions. The only people I have a problem with is people without degrees, who for whatever reason, nitpick people who have them. Respect is a two way street and all of that.
Agreed! I work with a woman who constantly does that. And you know what? She's not real bright.
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Old 07-06-2015, 12:08 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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People confuse formal education with intelligence. I know many people who don't have degrees who are extremely intelligent.

My general take is this:

In order to obtain a degree you must have a reasonable level of intelligence (which can be well above average or even possibly a bit below in some cases, within the exception of some fields that demand super high IQs like medicine, physics, etc. Someone who isn't super intelligent will just have to work much harder for a degree.

But there's absolutely no requirement that a person with a reasonable or even exceptional (genius level) intelligence possess a degree.

Being educated and intelligent often correlate with one another, but not always.
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