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There was a movement, back in the 1970s, called "Growing without Schooling" in support of home schooling.
The proponent pointed out that many of the reasons for public funded school no longer applied. One of which was "Americanizing" immigrants from different cultures. Thus the long standing emphasis on socializing and extracurricular activities beyond education.
Since 1933, the schools have shifted to align more with the new socialist paradigm and promulgate dependency and submission to the glorious collective state.
Ironically, home schooled children out perform others in college, partly due to a stronger emphasis on study habits and self directed research, which meshes well with the collegiate format. Public school students who are conditioned to be "taught" everything find themselves at a loss, when faced with the typical college mode of education.
My daughter had some roommates at the U of Colorado who were exchange students from Japan. They thought CU was much harder than their college in Japan.
Why, though?
At the middle school level, some of our Japanese students floundered:
a. Because of language
b. Because of feeling very out of it culturally
c. And perhaps most importantly because -- believe it or not -- much of our program was about critical thinking skills and not rote learning.
There was a movement, back in the 1970s, called "Growing without Schooling" in support of home schooling.
The proponent pointed out that many of the reasons for public funded school no longer applied. One of which was "Americanizing" immigrants from different cultures. Thus the long standing emphasis on socializing and extracurricular activities beyond education.
Since 1933, the schools have shifted to align more with the new socialist paradigm and promulgate dependency and submission to the glorious collective state.
Ironically, home schooled children out perform others in college, partly due to a stronger emphasis on study habits and self directed research, which meshes well with the collegiate format. Public school students who are conditioned to be "taught" everything find themselves at a loss, when faced with the typical college mode of education.
Any citations to support either of these?
I doubt that schools shifted in 1933. Things don't shift overnight because a new president takes office, especially when the federal government in 1933 had no input into education.
Interestingly, the idea would probably be much more successful in 3rd world countries, where children overcome great hardships to go to school, knowing the advantages an education brings. Check out Oprah's school in Africa, for instance.
In the USA? No chance. We have become WAY too comfortable and complacent in this country, and it shows.
I can only speak about one country -- Thailand, and while some children there overcome hardships to go to school in a country that supposedly has a compulsory attendance law, there are way too many who do not attend school. You seem them out and about on school days...very common in Bangkok and rural villages.
There was a movement, back in the 1970s, called "Growing without Schooling" in support of home schooling.
The proponent pointed out that many of the reasons for public funded school no longer applied. One of which was "Americanizing" immigrants from different cultures. Thus the long standing emphasis on socializing and extracurricular activities beyond education.
Since 1933, the schools have shifted to align more with the new socialist paradigm and promulgate dependency and submission to the glorious collective state.
Ironically, home schooled children out perform others in college, partly due to a stronger emphasis on study habits and self directed research, which meshes well with the collegiate format. Public school students who are conditioned to be "taught" everything find themselves at a loss, when faced with the typical college mode of education.
Perhaps the best question for you to ponder is why so few conservatives go into teaching/education.
Perhaps the best question for you to ponder is why so few conservatives go into teaching/education.
Do they? Or do they get filtered out and shut down by the education establishment? Is every teacher liberal? Or are conservative teachers muffled by the system? Or do conservative vs liberal go into different subjects where personal points of view are more or less part of the class? Math vs lit for example? Just postulating.
At the middle school level, some of our Japanese students floundered:
a. Because of language
b. Because of feeling very out of it culturally
c. And perhaps most importantly because -- believe it or not -- much of our program was about critical thinking skills and not rote learning.
Different age levels, but any similar thoughts?
I've heard the the Japanese tend to be quite bad at speaking English even if they've studied it in school for years. The "shame culture" makes them unwilling to even try, in order to avoid making mistakes.
But I sympathize with foreign students at colleges, since doing college-level work in a foreign language, especially humanities courses, is really hard.
Perhaps the best question for you to ponder is why so few conservatives go into teaching/education.
I actually run into quite a few conservative teachers. Maybe it is the area where I live but they seem to be representative of the rest of the population. I live in a town with a large university and it voted overwhelmingly for Trump.
At the middle school level, some of our Japanese students floundered:
a. Because of language
b. Because of feeling very out of it culturally
c. And perhaps most importantly because -- believe it or not -- much of our program was about critical thinking skills and not rote learning.
Different age levels, but any similar thoughts?
Well, I didn't know these students, this was just something my daughter passed on to me. I think c. had a lot to do with it.
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I've heard the the Japanese tend to be quite bad at speaking English even if they've studied it in school for years. The "shame culture" makes them unwilling to even try, in order to avoid making mistakes.
But I sympathize with foreign students at colleges, since doing college-level work in a foreign language, especially humanities courses, is really hard.
We had an exchange student from Japan one summer. She was about 16-17 years old. She certainly did not speak English as well as we thought she would. We were able to communicate, however.
Ironically, this article popped up on my news feed today. https://theconversation.com/problems...ents-container
A Canadian perspective on PISA. It's not just the US that has issues with testing. I find it humorous that people in here complain about "high stakes testing" then compare the US to other countries negatively based on . . .
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