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Old 10-30-2022, 06:54 AM
 
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People in the public sector retire at 55 with a pension and cheap health insurance for life. People in the private sector don’t retire until death.



My job pays less than a public sector job and it’s not a retail or customer service job.
Do you mind posting what you do (somewhat detailed, not just job title) and most importantly, level of responsibility ($$ responsible for, number supervised, etc) and I'll translate that to what GS level we would have where I am? Number of years is less key than duties and responsibilities. I know you're in Civil Engineering but trying to get a handle on where it compares to the GS scale. Then you can compare that to what you're paid. I won't ask how much, you can do the comparison yourself.

I can provide this much from just what we know. If you were a new graduate, with a high GPA, we'd bring you in as a GS-7, roughly $45K to $50K (rest of US pay scale for comparison purposes). With a lower GPA, it would be as a GS-5, roughly $36K-$39K. With a potential for an engineering bonus depending on need.

On the positive, if you were a high potential candidate, in a high need area, we could bring you in on a ladder position which has built in promotion point over the first few years as you move from trainee to journey skills. That's to provide some compensation for the fact that our entry salaries don't compete with industry. On the negative, if it's not a high need area, you could be in a position that you have to compete for each promotion level (from GS-7 to GS-9 and so on with other applicants) which limits upward mobility.
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Old 10-30-2022, 07:12 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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What was this thread about again?

LOL
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Old 10-30-2022, 08:18 AM
 
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What was this thread about again?

LOL
I started a thread over in retirement about working and retiring, public vs private...

https://www.city-data.com/forum/reti...l#post64368154
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Old 10-31-2022, 03:17 AM
 
Location: Sydney Australia
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Well, to turn it back to education, today the results of our Australian standardised primary and high school tests were released. Called NAPLAN. The results were substantially the same as in past years so the fears that Covid would have a major impact were not realised.

Of course, our ratings on international testing go down year by year, especially compared to our Asian neighbours.
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Old 10-31-2022, 10:42 AM
 
Location: State of Transition
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Well, to turn it back to education, today the results of our Australian standardised primary and high school tests were released. Called NAPLAN. The results were substantially the same as in past years so the fears that Covid would have a major impact were not realised.

Of course, our ratings on international testing go down year by year, especially compared to our Asian neighbours.
That's interesting. I wonder why the large disparity in results between the US and Aus.
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Old 10-31-2022, 03:58 PM
 
Location: We_tside PNW (Columbia Gorge) / CO / SA TX / Thailand
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That's interesting. I wonder why the large disparity in results between the US and Aus.


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Old 10-31-2022, 04:07 PM
 
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Do you mind posting what you do (somewhat detailed, not just job title) and most importantly, level of responsibility ($$ responsible for, number supervised, etc) and I'll translate that to what GS level we would have where I am? Number of years is less key than duties and responsibilities. I know you're in Civil Engineering but trying to get a handle on where it compares to the GS scale. Then you can compare that to what you're paid. I won't ask how much, you can do the comparison yourself.

I can provide this much from just what we know. If you were a new graduate, with a high GPA, we'd bring you in as a GS-7, roughly $45K to $50K (rest of US pay scale for comparison purposes). With a lower GPA, it would be as a GS-5, roughly $36K-$39K. With a potential for an engineering bonus depending on need.

On the positive, if you were a high potential candidate, in a high need area, we could bring you in on a ladder position which has built in promotion point over the first few years as you move from trainee to journey skills. That's to provide some compensation for the fact that our entry salaries don't compete with industry. On the negative, if it's not a high need area, you could be in a position that you have to compete for each promotion level (from GS-7 to GS-9 and so on with other applicants) which limits upward mobility.
Whoa, that explains why my new Civil Engineering grad said no thanks to the feds and got a job in the private sector.
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Old 10-31-2022, 04:11 PM
 
Location: Maui, Hawaii
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That's interesting. I wonder why the large disparity in results between the US and Aus.
Made my day
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Old 10-31-2022, 08:29 PM
 
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Whoa, that explains why my new Civil Engineering grad said no thanks to the feds and got a job in the private sector.
But the feds are supposed to be so overpaid and underworked.
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Old 11-01-2022, 10:43 AM
 
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https://www.axios.com/2022/10/12/act...niors-covid-19

The pandemic closures caused a MESS.

This is the first cohort that had 2 whole years disrupted by Covid. I expect this is going to get worse before it gets better.
I don't know what it was, but it wasn't just closures, because states that did not close schools had similar drops in scores to those that did.
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