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Old 05-22-2024, 07:37 AM
 
Location: Inland FL
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College isn't for most people at all really.
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Old 05-22-2024, 09:00 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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College isn't for most people at all really.
You're right. Clearly a majority of Americans are not capable of earning at least a bachelor's degree. I see them every day working construction, working retail, doing various forms of physical labor, and various trade jobs.
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Old 05-23-2024, 10:31 AM
 
Location: We_tside PNW (Columbia Gorge) / CO / SA TX / Thailand
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You're right. Clearly a majority of Americans are not capable of earning at least a bachelor's degree. I see them every day working construction, working retail, doing various forms of physical labor, and various trade jobs.
How many of these 'lower class" dream job holders do you interview daily? (Zero according to your espoused knowledge and experience).

You are likely to find that plenty are college grads.
Many others are immigrants/ self funded current college students.

Judging by perception adds to errors in evaluating.

Profiling is unnecessary and very inaccurate and inappropriate to the 'educated' (?)

Just ask them, and learn of their personal history and life. Offer them a hand UP, rather than condemn them as 'uneducated',
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Old 05-23-2024, 11:24 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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How many of these 'lower class" dream job holders do you interview daily? (Zero according to your espoused knowledge and experience).

You are likely to find that plenty are college grads.
Many others are immigrants/ self funded current college students.

Judging by perception adds to errors in evaluating.

Profiling is unnecessary and very inaccurate and inappropriate to the 'educated' (?)

Just ask them, and learn of their personal history and life. Offer them a hand UP, rather than condemn them as 'uneducated',
The world according to Stealth Rabbit.

Anyone have a mirror Stealth Rabbit could borrow?
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Old 05-23-2024, 03:08 PM
 
Location: southwestern PA
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Clearly a majority of Americans are not capable of earning at least a bachelor's degree. I see them every day working construction, working retail, doing various forms of physical labor, and various trade jobs.
I know a couple in construction... he is an engineer and she is the accountant for their company.
People working retail often have degrees, or are working on them.
The owners of the landscaping company who just worked on my yard (yes, them, NOT their employees) have degrees in turf management and horticulture.

Clearly they ARE capable of higher education...
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Old 05-23-2024, 04:00 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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I know a couple in construction... he is an engineer and she is the accountant for their company.
People working retail often have degrees, or are working on them.
The owners of the landscaping company who just worked on my yard (yes, them, NOT their employees) have degrees in turf management and horticulture.

Clearly they ARE capable of higher education...
Okay, but most people working in construction are not engineers...are they? I'm talking blue collar. "Construction industry workers were much less likely than the employed overall to have a bachelor’s degree or higher—17.9 percent versus 44.1 percent." About 18%.

Yes, some people in retail probably have degrees or are working on them. But what percentage of the people in retail do you think have college degrees?

"The owners of the landscaping company..." I'm not talking about the owners. I'm talking about the real workers.
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Old 05-23-2024, 04:05 PM
 
Location: WA
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It depends upon where you go. If you go to college towns like Eugene, Boulder, or Madison you can find tons of PhDs and other highly educated people working as baristas or in bike shops, waiting tables, or construction because they got unmarketable esoteric degrees and don't want to leave their little academic lifestyle oasis.
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Old 05-23-2024, 05:03 PM
 
Location: southwestern PA
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"The owners of the landscaping company..." I'm not talking about the owners. I'm talking about the real workers.
They ARE the “real workers”.

I clearly stared that in my post.


And, to make it even clearer, I’ll add that the employees are their wives. One does all the books, the other takes calls and gives estimates. Both ladies are college educated, along with being fabulous mothers.
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Old 05-23-2024, 05:09 PM
 
Location: southwestern PA
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Yes, some people in retail probably have degrees or are working on them. But what percentage of the people in retail do you think have college degrees?
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I don’t know… I would guess around one in five have degrees. And then there are those working towards their degree too.
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Old 05-23-2024, 05:41 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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I don’t know… I would guess around one in five have degrees. And then there are those working towards their degree too.
I think you're arguing for the sake of arguing, or you're certainly missing the main point.
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