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Old 12-29-2011, 04:02 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Wrong; Obama slams Newt amongst indys, and the results were consistent among several polls on that matter. That is why Obama's ads have been exclusively vs Romney, the only real threat to him.

I recall all the same, misguided and delusional optimism with JM 2008.
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Old 12-29-2011, 04:04 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Wrong; Obama slams Newt amongst indys, and the results were consistent among several polls on that matter. That is why Obama's ads have been exclusively vs Romney, the only real threat to him.
Exactly.

Most people see Obama as being a horrible president but they will still support him over some loon.

While I don't like Romney that much, I am very proud to support him. I would vote for Newt over Obama but I would have to really hold my nose.

I would actually vote for Obama over Bachmann, Perry, Paul, or Santorum. I really like Ron Paul for the most part, but he is too extreme on foreign policy and those views trump everything else IMO.
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Old 12-29-2011, 04:04 PM
 
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tropolis, It doesn't change the fact MR has fared better vs BHO than any other candidate despite the efforts of the radical TP to dismiss him.

Counting to 270 is not in their skill set.
he fares better and hes winning are 2 different things.

i think he is the most electable, but his past liberal record makes it a moot point.

conservatives arnt going to vote for him, his supporters are banned on major conservative sites.

how the hell are you going to argue romneycare with obama?

this same romney was pushing gun control, abortion, illegal immigration, and now you believe he'll be anything different?

its essentially dem vs. dem

mitt romney will be like scott brown of mass if he wins, which isnt good if you are conservative.
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Old 12-29-2011, 04:05 PM
 
Location: Des Moines, Iowa
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Obama vs Romney....meh...

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On one side there is Romney, the latest milquetoast cronyist to come from the Republican Party establishment’s endless assembly line of hackneyed wannabes. Candidates like Romney are like the hydra from Greek mythology. You cut off one head and another one just like it grows back. If Romney doesn’t win this time, another opportunist whose buddies want to feed off the taxpayers’ trough and call it economic development will be waiting in line to run in his place the next time around.

The differences between Romney and Obama are like the differences between the Labor Party and Conservative Party in England. The Labor Party represents outright socialism that embraces radical Islam, while the Conservative Party represents frugal socialism that is leery of radical Islam. Either way, other then one side turning a blind eye to allowing pockets of Sharia Law to flourish in the U.K., there is really little to no difference between either party’s actual governance.
Fight for the Future | Steve Deace
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Old 12-29-2011, 04:07 PM
 
Location: Texas
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conservatives arnt going to vote for him, his supporters are banned on major conservative sites.
Yes they will. The only one the hardcore conservatives wouldn't vote for would be Ron Paul. They will vote for Romney if only as the lesser of two evils.

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how the hell are you going to argue romneycare with obama?
State program vs. federal program

How many times do I have to explain this?

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this same romney was pushing gun control, abortion, illegal immigration, and now you believe he'll be anything different?

its essentially dem vs. dem

mitt romney will be like scott brown of mass if he wins, which isnt good if you are conservative.
Read my earlier response to TXboomerang.
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Old 12-29-2011, 04:09 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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he fares better and hes winning are 2 different things.

i think he is the most electable, but his past liberal record makes it a moot point.

conservatives arnt going to vote for him, his supporters are banned on major conservative sites.

Wrong. They will get behind him in the end. And the "moderates/Indies" he pulls might make it a moot point.

how the hell are you going to argue romneycare with obama?

Oh easy. Just as Romney has done over the last few months. Romneycare was tailored for MA, with the support of the legislature and the people. Obama SHOVED obamacare down the NATION'S throat, AGAINST the will of the people, with back room deals, legislative tricks and budget gimmicks. Obamacare will be front and center of a Romney campaign. What will be HILARIOUS is the obama campaign railing against romneycare while at the same time defending obamacare...or will he ADMIT he made the worst mistake of his presidency when shoving that crap sandwich down our throats?

this same romney was pushing gun control, abortion, illegal immigration, and now you believe he'll be anything different?

He's pro-life, pro-gun, anti-illegal immigration. Why doesn't obama's flip-flops bother you as much as Romney's?

its essentially dem vs. dem

mitt romney will be like scott brown of mass if he wins, which isnt good if you are conservative.
The GOP Congress will push him to the right - guaranteed. The GOP will likely keep the House, take the Senate.
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Old 12-29-2011, 04:15 PM
 
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The GOP Congress will push him to the right - guaranteed. The GOP will likely keep the House, take the Senate.
so they take the house/senate and in 2014 when the country is even more messed up then it is now the dems wipe them out and regain control.

time to stop playing the ping pong game.
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Old 12-29-2011, 04:23 PM
 
Location: San Antonio Texas
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Wow!… Mitt Romney surged ahead of failed President Barack Obama this week in the latest poll.
Rasmussen reported:
Mitt Romney has now jumped to his biggest lead ever over President Obama in a hypothetical Election 2012 matchup. It’s also the biggest lead a named Republican candidate has held over the incumbent in Rasmussen Reports surveying to date.
The latest national telephone survey finds that 45% of Likely U.S. Voters favor the former Massachusetts governor, while 39% prefer the president. Ten percent (10%) like some other candidate in the race, and six percent (6%) are undecided. (To see survey question wording, click here.)
A week ago, Romney trailed Obama 44% to 41%. The week before that, he held a slight 43% to 42% edge over the president. The two candidates have been essentially tied in regular surveys since January, but Romney remains the only GOP hopeful to lead Obama in more than one survey. Despite Romney’s current six-point lead, his latest level of support is in line with the 38% to 45% he has earned in matchups with the president this year. However, Obama’s 39% is a new low: Prior to this survey, his support has ranged from 40% to 46% in matchups with Romney.
A generic Republican candidate holds a narrow lead over the president again this week as has been the case all but three times in weekly tracking since late May.


Shock Poll: Romney Up 45 to 39 Over Obama | The Gateway Pundit
I don't believe that Romney is an ideal candidate to go up against BHO because his past actions and soundbites will come back to bite him in the general:

1) his career at Bain Capital where he outsourced many jobs to overseas territories/countries. His How could this possibly play well in states like Ohio, Penn, Mich, No Carolina?
It's easy to lump him in with the greedy corporatists, sleazy Wall St types, etc. How are blue collar Americans going to warm up to him?

2) His goober soundbite where he emphatically said that, "Corporations are people"

3) his mormon religion

4) his $10,000 bet with Perry and his comment that he was "also unemployed".

5) He is a very attractive Ken doll, but his personality/charisma is lacking

6) Some voters like to have a balanced exec/congressional split. Since it appears that Repubs are poised to keep the House and take the Senate, would an Indep voter REALLY want to hand over Exec & Congress exclusively to the Repubs?

7) the likelihood that the economy will be slightly improved by election time.

Just my opinion. I don't think that it will be "easy" for Obama, but I do predict a win for President Obama in 2012.
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Old 12-29-2011, 06:36 PM
 
Location: NJ
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wehotex, Even with MR, it will not floor me if BHO has an electoral edge going in, but w/o MR, BHO should alrready be planning a second innaugeral party for himself. Newt could well land in Goldwater territory from an electroal standpoint.
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Old 12-29-2011, 06:45 PM
 
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Anyway, as to the OP, I literally jumped for joy when I saw this. Yes, it's only one poll. Yes, it's Rasmussen which I admit is Republican-leaning. But, still, a gap this large means something. I'm thrilled.

Me too, it's the largest gap out in front of Obama by any candidate so far and this before an actual nominee has been chosen. It's a good sign..now to get Romney nominated.
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