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Old 02-08-2012, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Who's going to win? "War on Religion" vs "War on Women"? My money is going on the people supporting the Women.
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Old 02-08-2012, 01:00 PM
 
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So you don't understand the difference between "less government" and "no government"?

Because a conservative supports any law they must therefore support all laws?

You can't distinguish between a sensible regulation and an intrusive regulation?
I find the 2 I mentioned very intrusive yet they want less government. That is heck of a lot more government that they want in our lives.
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Old 02-08-2012, 01:01 PM
 
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Who's going to win? "War on Religion" vs "War on Women"? My money is going on the people supporting the Women.
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Old 02-08-2012, 01:07 PM
 
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Obama took over GM why don't people think he will take over Catholic organizations (hospitals, carehomes, etc, etc.) that is what socialists do. DUH.

He wants everything run by the government. Do as the government tells you or we will own you.
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Old 02-08-2012, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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You can't distinguish between a sensible regulation and an intrusive regulation?
Clearly, you can't.
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Old 02-08-2012, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Can you prove your statement about the Catholic Bishops not voting for Obama? He and his people did promise them that they wouldn't pull this trick and Catholics, by and large, supported the passage of Obamacare for that promise.
What trick?

Churches are exempt from this rule, schools and hospitals are not.
Churches presumably only hire people who share their faith, schools and hospitals do not.

Excellent argument here:

"Some religious leaders argue that they should not be required to pay for birth control coverage for their employees if they have religious objections to birth control. This argument ignores the fact that health insurance coverage is not a voluntary gift to employees. It is a part of their compensation package. If someone opposed the minimum wage on religious grounds -- say because they believed it "discouraged individual initiative" -- that wouldn't excuse them from having to pay the minimum wage."

Robert Creamer: Protecting Access to Birth Control Does Not Violate Religious Freedom -- And It Is a Moral Imperative
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Old 02-08-2012, 01:30 PM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Demanding that a hospital and school that provide services that conflict with their religious beliefs is CERTAINLY a war on religion.

Horrible miscalculation on Obama's part.
Do these hospitals and schools serve only those who share their religion or do they serve the public at large?


There may be a 'war' being waged, but it is not being waged by the administration. It is being waged by those who would impose their religious views on that same public at large.
This is the U.S. of A. We're supposed to be free from that sort of theocratic bullying here.
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Old 02-08-2012, 01:49 PM
 
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Now that the economy is coming back, Republicans are turning to social issues again: Religion, contraception, same-sex marriage, etc.
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Old 02-08-2012, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Who's going to win? "War on Religion" vs "War on Women"? My money is going on the people supporting the Women.
There has to be something for lefties to tie their hopes on on this one. I didn't think that all women go to Catholic hospitals so your hopes may sink from the truth getting out.
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Old 02-08-2012, 01:55 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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If your "group of thoughts" is your usual blather from RWNJ websites, you are correct - don't bother. I have no interest in offering an explanation - the law is what it is.
Waiting a few months to play that game may have made it too late for the Christians to "go into the street ",as one Catholic leader suggested they might. Now this wouldn't give enough time for the Occupy people to engage those horrible Christians in combat resulting in no chance to call for martial law. Do you want to deflect on any of these words? Have at it.
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