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I got shouted down on this board when I said early on that Romney has a million problems as the "endorsed" candidate and that he was going to be a liability. I suppose the poll number will change once Santorum starts taking hits--he hasn't faced any yet--but this election cycle is just....depressing. Santorum is a nut, and he makes Romney look great.
I got shouted down on this board when I said early on that Romney has a million problems as the "endorsed" candidate and that he was going to be a liability. I suppose the poll number will change once Santorum starts taking hits--he hasn't faced any yet--but this election cycle is just....depressing. Santorum is a nut, and he makes Romney look great.
You do understand that this has happened with at least five other candidates, right? The state of the party is more to blame than Romney himself. There are factors of it that are his to claim, but it's not being objective to think it is all his fault alone. He has been running with no assistance from any media outlet at all...left or right. All talk radio is bashing him, Fox News is bashing him daily, and most right wing bloggers are slamming him daily. Those are powerful forces to go against. I am shocked he keeps doing as well as he is. Add to this that there is no candidate that is a viable alternative that would be a better person for the job.
You do understand that this has happened with at least five other candidates, right? The state of the party is more to blame than Romney himself. There are factors of it that are his to claim, but it's not being objective to think it is all his fault alone. He has been running with no assistance from any media outlet at all...left or right. All talk radio is bashing him, Fox News is bashing him daily, and most right wing bloggers are slamming him daily. Those are powerful forces to go against. I am shocked he keeps doing as well as he is. Add to this that there is no candidate that is a viable alternative that would be a better person for the job.
I agree that it's more a problem with the party than Romney, but my point all along was that the problems were there, and I had concerns that there was no way Romney as a candidate could bridge them. Maybe I'm being unfair, because I'm not sure there is a candidate who could pull this mess together.
It's happened with 5 other candidates, but Romney was supposed to be the one that the leadership endorsed (although they sure haven't acted on it) so we'd keep the nuts from gaining any traction. We shouldn't be at the vetting crazy people stage this late in the game--Romney should be pulling ahead by now. I'm not blaming Romney as a human being--although I've never met him personally, I've heard that he's a very, very nice man--but the party knew from the beginning that they'd need someone who could unite all the factions, or at least "talk the talk" to do it. We are so divided right now that it's like walking a tightrope. Most of it's the GOP's own fault--we let the loonies out of the asylum as far as encouraging the far far right end of the party, and now they think they can run the show.
My take is that they couldn't get someone like a Jeb Bush to run who could possibly pull it off, and Romney got the job by default. Romney's faith (yes, we have religious bigots in the party--it's not right, but it's true) plus his history of changing direction over and over on issues has made him unacceptable to the more "activist" end of the party at the same time that we need a moderate to win the general.
I know you love him. I think he's a very flawed candidate, but again, a good man--but I do agree with you on this--he's got zero support from the GOP leadership, which is almost a betrayal. They're leaving him out there to twist in the wind. The conservative media has ripped him to shreds, which I don't understand either. This whole primary has been like watching a train wreck in slow motion. I never thought that things could completely fall apart this quickly.
I agree that it's more a problem with the party than Romney, but my point all along was that the problems were there, and I had concerns that there was no way Romney as a candidate could bridge them. Maybe I'm being unfair, because I'm not sure there is a candidate who could pull this mess together.
It's happened with 5 other candidates, but Romney was supposed to be the one that the leadership endorsed (although they sure haven't acted on it) so we'd keep the nuts from gaining any traction. We shouldn't be at the vetting crazy people stage this late in the game--Romney should be pulling ahead by now. I'm not blaming Romney as a human being--although I've never met him personally, I've heard that he's a very, very nice man--but the party knew from the beginning that they'd need someone who could unite all the factions, or at least "talk the talk" to do it. We are so divided right now that it's like walking a tightrope. Most of it's the GOP's own fault--we let the loonies out of the asylum as far as encouraging the far far right end of the party, and now they think they can run the show.
My take is that they couldn't get someone like a Jeb Bush to run who could possibly pull it off, and Romney got the job by default. Romney's faith (yes, we have religious bigots in the party--it's not right, but it's true) plus his history of changing direction over and over on issues has made him unacceptable to the more "activist" end of the party at the same time that we need a moderate to win the general.
I know you love him. I think he's a very flawed candidate, but again, a good man--but I do agree with you on this--he's got zero support from the GOP leadership, which is almost a betrayal. They're leaving him out there to twist in the wind. The conservative media has ripped him to shreds, which I don't understand either. This whole primary has been like watching a train wreck in slow motion. I never thought that things could completely fall apart this quickly.
This election year should be a major wakeup call for all Republicans that your Party needs to be refurbished, start by a purge then rebuild it, then maybe Indes such as myself can once again look to the GOP as an alternative when desciding on which candidate to support at election time
This election year should be a major wakeup call for all Republicans that your Party needs to be refurbished, start by a purge then rebuild it, then maybe Indes such as myself can once again look to the GOP as an alternative when desciding on which candidate to support at election time
You do understand that this has happened with at least five other candidates, right? The state of the party is more to blame than Romney himself. There are factors of it that are his to claim, but it's not being objective to think it is all his fault alone. He has been running with no assistance from any media outlet at all...left or right. All talk radio is bashing him, Fox News is bashing him daily, and most right wing bloggers are slamming him daily. Those are powerful forces to go against. I am shocked he keeps doing as well as he is. Add to this that there is no candidate that is a viable alternative that would be a better person for the job.
BS. Romney is a weak candidate, simple as that.
If he was legit it would've been over by now.
He's down in the 60's in Intrade now as well.
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