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Old 03-07-2012, 01:21 PM
 
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Bush won in the suburbs outside of the city Romney is winning in the outside

Kerry lost due to low AA turnout because Karl Rove buying off Black
Churches.,but the AA population will comeout full force for Obama.

Romney is not going to win MA its practically impossible.

Rural counties might vote or Romney but i its low turnout because they are un enthusiastic that could be a problem.

Voter turnout during a primary does not necessarily predict turnout in the general election.
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Old 03-07-2012, 06:38 PM
 
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Mitt Romney won a crushing victory Tuesday, winning twice as many states as Rick Santorum and more that two and half times as many delegates, but his triumph is being portrayed in headlines across the nation as sign of weakness and failure.
Give me a break, the only reason Romney has that many delegates is because his opponents are too inept to get their names on the ballot.

A crushing victory would be Romney winning by 15 points in OH and then beating Santorum in TN. A crushing victory should be one where he completely silences his critics and leaves his opponents dazed and confused.

You know, like Obama in 2008.

Romney has not won over the conservative base. He barely squeak out a win in OH. That's the story and the press has it spot on.

This "crushing victory" is akin to a healthy runner bragging about outpacing three cripples on crutches. Some "crushing vicotry" this is.

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Old 03-07-2012, 06:45 PM
 
Location: Fargo, ND
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Romney hasn't won over conservatives in the South and Midwest...seems like they are behind him in other parts of the country though.

I guess you could basically say Romney hasn't won over Evangelicals because that is why he is struggling in these areas where they are a dominate force.
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Old 03-07-2012, 06:47 PM
 
Location: Greater Washington, DC
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You know, like Obama in 2008.

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Are you kidding? In what world did Obama deal Hillary a crushing defeat in 08?

Unless you mean the general election. You know, the one he won after a very long primary battle that was divided sharply along demographic lines. The one where the party still rallied together to support him even if Hillary was their candidate. Is that what you meant?
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Old 03-07-2012, 07:01 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Good thread, dixiegirl7. The reality is MR doees not make for good press, since he is simply a qualified, dignified, and rather shy leader. The press likes freak shows; hence they like Gingrich and Sanatarium, and they would like Paul except for the fact that his planets' inhabitants do not cross paths with our planet. With NG and RS, the press likes the fact each is adept at saying something so insane, so out of touch with 99.9%, it can boost circulation. In much the same way Murdoch's first ownership run with the NY Post came close to 1 million daily circulation with Fleet St stuff like the infamous headline 'Headless body found in Topless Bar".

NG's "Let poor kids be janitors", and RS' sanctimonius attitude towards contraception make for the same type of headlines. MR's Old-fashioned competence does not sell papers.

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Old 03-07-2012, 07:02 PM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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Give me a break, the only reason Romney has that many delegates is because his opponents are too inept to get their names on the ballot.

A crushing victory would be Romney winning by 15 points in OH and then beating Santorum in TN. A crushing victory should be one where he completely silences his critics and leaves his opponents dazed and confused.

You know, like Obama in 2008.

Romney has not won over the conservative base. He barely squeak out a win in OH. That's the story and the press has it spot on.

This "crushing victory" is akin to a healthy runner bragging about outpacing three cripples on crutches. Some "crushing vicotry" this is.

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You, MSNBC and CNN won't ever give Romney credit unless he wins by 500% margins. Anything less is "a disappointment." It's just so pathetic. "A win is a win unless you're Mitt Romney. If you're Mitt, all wins are bigger losses than actual losses." Do you have any idea how idiotic that sounds??

Santorum was winning Ohio by about 20% two weeks beforehand. That's a pretty amazing comeback for Romney.

For some reason, the MSM wants to play saboteur this year. Ron Paul is only a figment of your imagination and Mitt Romney must be held to completely unrealistic standards.

THE reason everyone is staying in is because from May 29th to June 5th, 455 delegates will be decided. That's bigger than Super Tuesday and more than enough to hand victory to anyone. But they'd need to absolutely dominate the vote. If I'm Santorum or Gingrich, I'm staying in till then and praying some miracle can hand me an overwhelming victory in Texas, California, New Jersey, South Dakota, Montana and New Mexico. Lock up all 455 delegates and you jump way out into the lead. From there, just let the super-delegates do their thing and give you the nomination.

If the GOP hadn't put so many big states so late in the game, this thing might have been over and done with last month.
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Old 03-07-2012, 07:36 PM
 
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Give me a break, the only reason Romney has that many delegates is because his opponents are too inept to get their names on the ballot.

A crushing victory would be Romney winning by 15 points in OH and then beating Santorum in TN. A crushing victory should be one where he completely silences his critics and leaves his opponents dazed and confused.

You know, like Obama in 2008.

Romney has not won over the conservative base. He barely squeak out a win in OH. That's the story and the press has it spot on.

This "crushing victory" is akin to a healthy runner bragging about outpacing three cripples on crutches. Some "crushing vicotry" this is.

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Have you looked at the actual delegate count. Actually, Hilary won more of the popular vote than Obama in 2008 and he just about couldn't 'seal the deal' all the way to the convention.
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Old 03-07-2012, 07:43 PM
 
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Have you looked at the actual delegate count. Actually, Hilary won more of the popular vote than Obama in 2008 and he just about couldn't 'seal the deal' all the way to the convention.
I find it interesting how the Democrats act like Obama steam rolled Clinton in a non-controversial primary.

There was a lot of mud and bruises.

The Democrats took away the delegates for Florida and Michigan due to them bumping their primaries ahead of schedule.....had they not done that we very well could be talking about those delegates putting Hillary over the top and Romney would be facing Hillary in 2012.
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Old 03-07-2012, 08:27 PM
 
Location: Riverside
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Romney's winning a tortoise race. People should be excited?
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Old 03-07-2012, 08:39 PM
 
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Good thread, dixiegirl7. The reality is MR doees not make for good press, since he is simply a qualified, dignified, and rather shy leader. The press likes freak shows; hence they like Gingrich and Sanatarium, and they would like Paul except for the fact that his planets' inhabitants do not cross paths with our planet. With NG and RS, the press likes the fact each is adept at saying something so insane, so out of touch with 99.9%, it can boost circulation. In much the same way Murdoch's first ownership run with the NY Post came close to 1 million daily circulation with Fleet St stuff like the infamous headline 'Headless body found in Topless Bar".

NG's "Let poor kids be janitors", and RS' sanctimonius attitude towards contraception make for the same type of headlines. MR's Old-fashioned competence does not sell papers.


I believe once again, you hit the nail on the head, Bob. Added to that, Mitt Romney cannot be bought, so he isn't a favorite of those in that game either. I know he is perceived as the GOP establishment candidate and to an extent he is, but he is not actually one of their good ole boy types so there is a hesitancy with some of the establishment even.
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